CAlifornia BAR/SMOG/engine swap thread.

[Steven]

Any idea on what documentation you need for where you bought the engine/engine in general? Aka I have no documents on the engine because I got it in pieces.

[_Keith_]

You can add a female pin on the c101 side to accept the x6031/x20 cel pin from the engine side. Wire it up to a check engine bulb + pigtail from a late model junkyard car.

Obviously you'll need to wire up the x20/x6031 side as well.

[pandaboo911]

CAlifornia BAR/SMOG/engine swap thread.

whats the best way to wire up a CEL? My 84 never had it and I plan on making my car CA - Legal. should be a fun experience!!

+1 I have an 84 as well. I added an LED to the cntr console because i don't have a stock cluster. I wired it directly to the Ecu. Although I think I fucked up because I read the Ecu provides ground not power.
Right now the cel is on all the time.

Anyone know what pin on the red label 413 provides ground for the CEL?

[_Keith_]

So what did those of you with a s52 do? I have the 506 ecu, I'm also wondering about ob2 headers installed with block off plates.

[THEhomelessONE]

DON'T go to the one in Alameda. The guy who used to work there was laid back so I've heard, new guy is no good. Failed me twice, first time for a very slow leaking radiator (didn't leak a drop while I was there) and second for not warming up the car after over an hour of sitting, small puff of smoke at start up (only happens on steep inclines, which I was since it was on the dyno) and a knock sensor code even though he didn't show me and no codes came up on stomp test.

[drummerchubbs]

I passed BAR first time with a M50NV swap with after market cone first on the MAF, modified OBD2 exhaust manifolds, and stock cats from the M50NV. I went to the South Sacramento BAR station and a nice gentleman gave me a BAR sticker and I left with a HUGE smile on my face.

[DesertBMW]

in the process of getting my car bar's. They asked for a stock 1995 m3 ecu which was only made for a couple months. If i get it, would still need a ews delete chip?

M3 ews delete chip is actually a copy of stock 506 chip. So if you get 506 DME you don't have to do anything to it.

[Jcate30]

in the process of getting my car bar's. They asked for a stock 1995 m3 ecu which was only made for a couple months. If i get it, would still need a ews delete chip?

[arch4ngel]

You can add a female pin on the c101 side to accept the x6031/x20 cel pin from the engine side. Wire it up to a check engine bulb + pigtail from a late model junkyard car.

Obviously you'll need to wire up the x20/x6031 side as well.

[2mAn]

whats the best way to wire up a CEL? My 84 never had it and I plan on making my car CA - Legal. should be a fun experience!!

[Jon325i]

Bumping this thread....and providing some related info.

There are a handful of counties within California that do not require smog testing. These counties are....

Alpine
Amador
Calaveras
Del Norte
Humboldt
Imperial
Inyo
Lake
Lassen
Mariposa
Mendocino
Modoc
Mono
Plumas
Sierra
Siskiyou
Trinity
Tuolumne

Wiki source on Calif smog info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Smog_Check

DMV source on Calif smog info:
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm

There are six counties that require smog certifications within certain Zip Codes only. These counties are:

El Dorado
Placer
Riverside
San Bernardino
San Diego
Sonoma

Zip Code verification link:

http://smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebquery/Ziparea/ZipLookup.aspx

So depending on where you live in California, you might be off the hook when it comes to emissions compliance. Research it!!!


Jon

[clavinZERO]

Thank you. I hope to do this legitimately someday soon.

[Wanganstyle]

This is a Thread to discuss Legal (california) engine swaps.

Please keep this thread on topic. Legal swaps are good; promoting clean air and legitimate 100% legal smog. Do not post about illegal modifications or ways one has circumvented smog check, thread is to promote 100% legitimate engine installation for California.

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/07_AutoRepair/Engine_Change_Guidelines.html

summary: the man is pretty prude.


engine+wiring+emissions+brain must stay as a package originally sold by OEM - in CA. if there is a CA specific model for that engine, the CA version is the only one legal for CA installation (into another chassis)

obd1 conversion on obd2 engine = illegal for cali smog.

any aftermarket modification without CARB (california air resource board) EQ number = Illegal.
internal engine modification (cams, valves, pistons) = ILLEGAL unless the parts have a ARB executive order
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Engine Change Guidelines

OVERVIEW
Engine changes continue to present problems and challenges to car owners and technicians. Here are some tips to keep you and your customers on the straight and narrow.

Our recommendation is to rebuild and reinstall the original engine, transmission, and emission control configuration.

When rebuilding an engine, it must be rebuilt to the original equipment specifications. However, if you do decide to change the engine, these guidelines must be observed to ensure that the vehicle will be eligible for smog certification or registration.

Remember, these are guidelines for performing engine changes – not certification procedures. All exhaust emission controlled vehicles with engine changes must be inspected by an official referee station and must have a Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) Vehicle Identification Label affixed to the doorpost.

Remember also, state and federal anti–tampering laws generally prohibit any modification to the vehicle's original emission control system configuration as certified by the manufacturer. And, Section 3362.1 of the California Code of Regulations prohibits any engine change that degrades the effectiveness of a vehicle's emission control system.

CALIFORNIA CERTIFICATION
A federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) certified (federal or 49–state) engine cannot be used in a vehicle that was originally certified for California.

CERTIFICATION STANDARDS
Make sure the engine and emission control configuration on exhaust – controlled vehicles are certified to the year of the vehicle or newer, and to the same or a more stringent new vehicle certification standard.

CLASSIFICATION
Don't mix engine and vehicle classifications which will degrade the emissions certification standards. For example, a heavy–duty engine cannot be installed in a light–duty exhaust–controlled chassis even if they have the same displacement. Non–emissions controlled power plants such as industrial or off–road–use–only engines may not be placed in any exhaust–controlled vehicle.

COMPUTER CONTROLS
If a computer–controlled engine is installed in a non–computerized vehicle, the "CHECK ENGINE" light, the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) diagnostic link, and all sensors, switches, and wiring harnesses needed to make the system fully functional must also be installed.

EMISSION CONTROL CONFIGURATION
Mixing and matching emission control system components could cause problems and is generally not allowed. Engine and emission control systems must be in an engine–chassis configuration certified by the California Air Resources Board (ARB) or U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The engine must meet or exceed the requirements for the year and class of vehicle in which it is installed.

EMISSION WARRANTY
Voiding the vehicle manufacturer's emission warranty is not allowed.

ENGINE MODIFICATIONS
No internal or external engine modifications (cams, pistons, intakes, etc.) may be performed unless the parts are ARB–exempted or EPA–certified for use in the installed engine. Use the database on this site to search for aftermarket parts covered by ARB Executive Orders.

ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT
The installed engine and host chassis must retain all of their original emission control equipment. Diesel–to–gasoline conversions must have all gasoline engine and chassis emission control systems installed (such as fillpipe restrictor, catalytic converter and evaporative emission system).

SMOG INSPECTION
These vehicles must pass a complete smog inspection (visual, functional, and tailpipe).