ABS delete or keep

[singh336]

genius

[Oly_Schmidt]

Delete ABS to make engine bay "cleaner"??? A better idea would be removing your front calipers to make your wheels look cleaner.

Call your insurance agent and ask him/her what they think. I'm pretty sure that in certain (maybe all) circumstances this will void your insurance, if discovered.

[JinormusJ]

nando? any input? what about cars that never came with ABS... how disastrous are we now?

I've owned two cars without ABS. I've crash both because my brakes locked up and I skidded into the person in front of me

IMP. The ABS is a great function, keep it. If not, just make sure to drive carefully or else above will happen. I'm not speaking from a spectator's stand point, and since you've obviously made your decision, my experience has no bearing in what you want to do

I would love to see how clean your engine bay looks with the front end crunched in and the engine pushed back a foot

[Jonny Cash]

I will throw in my .02 only because I used to be under the impression that I was an awesome driver, and I didnt need ABS on the dry street or dry track.

My track experience up to that point was always without ABS. So my recent e30 i built (s52/m3 brakes) it was nothing to me to just get rid of it..
Until I became a better driver.. I then noticed myself braking later, and pushing harder. And not only locked up on track a few times but also flat spotted two sets of race tires which really sucked.

Ive recently bought another e30 to race with (m42), this was the first car ive driven hard on track with ABS.. Being a momentum type of car I was braking later, and able to push the car alot harder.. Doing things I could never do with no ABS..
I dont care who you are, or how good of a driver you think you are, IMO you are always short changing yourself without it on track.

The street is a totally different story and all depends on your driving habits.
Me personally i drive very passive, and always leave myself room.. So if youre like me you can easily do without it.. If youre an asshole on the road and it happens to rain alot where you are then... yea.

[singh336]

^ good points and I cann see what you're trying to explain and it makes sense

on the street it's whatever ,I still believe that

abs is a driving aid and I'm sure it helps with racing that's why most race cars have and use it

[nando]

yeah, cars also used to come with 90bhp V8s, manual drum brakes, leaf spring rear suspensions, and worm-gear steering boxes. Clearly, they're just as good as modern designs because people were "just fine" fine back then too.

[Cyrix2k]

it's amazing how people survived before ABS... If you want a clean engine bay, delete. There's already insurance implications with a motor swap. On a technical level, it's possible to stop faster on dry pavement without ABS but ABS is generally better on any loose debris/low friction surfaces. You shouldn't be flat spotting tires in panic situations, instead you *pump* the brakes. Old skool. ABS is certainly more intuitive, but by no means necessary.

Oh yeah, and I personally don't care about A/C. I don't use it in my 540 (I don't even have the belt on the compressor right now and it works, lol) and deleted it in the e30.

[nando]

I want to see somebody pump their brakes 100 times a second when a soccermom pulls out in front of them in an Escalade.