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  • 416stroker
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    • May 2008
    • 2448

    #166
    Originally posted by jahnaboi
    Sorry, don't mean to be mean, but that's a such a novice statement. If you knew anything about drag/flooring a high hp car and optimizing each gear with great power you'd understand the reason of a revlimiter and the reason why he's on it a lot. If you didn't notice he's pushing out a lot of power, meaning before he even reaches the maximum speed for each gear he's already spinning his tires. So while they are spinning you basically either feather the gas or just stomp on it and wait for your car to actually catch up to speed for that gear, hence why he bounces off the revlimiter. If he were to shift gears ever time he hit redline immediately he would bog out the next gear (something you would apparently do) and get even slower times.

    I have probably more experiance with drag racing most people here. I have made passes in the 10 second range and your full of it haha id like to know where you learn your shit. How than the car keep pulling when your bouncing it off the revlimiter? He wasnt Spinnig at around half track when he was on the rev limiter

    also he only spun bad in first and second i know that... he might even get in the 8s if he can get that under control.


    Edit: I was try to be an ass to him the car is fast and has the possabality to be even faster.
    Last edited by 416stroker; 12-01-2008, 09:34 PM.
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    • BMWSOB
      Grease Monkey
      • Dec 2005
      • 311

      #167
      In that pass, the clutch was slipping pretty bad. I had to pedal it a little in third to get the clutch to grab. Then in forth, once boost crept up close to 40, the clutch was overpowered fully engaged. It was still accelerating, thats why I stayed in it till I crossed the line. Very far from optimal. I have a twin disc with sintered bronze discs, Its probably time for an upgrade at this point.
      More info here http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1128098

      And I also have a vid of what happens if its cold and i don't heat the tires enough.



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      • 416stroker
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        • May 2008
        • 2448

        #168
        Originally posted by BMWSOB
        In that pass, the clutch was slipping pretty bad. I had to pedal it a little in third to get the clutch to grab. Then in forth, once boost crept up close to 40, the clutch was overpowered fully engaged. It was still accelerating, thats why I stayed in it till I crossed the line. Very far from optimal. I have a twin disc with sintered bronze discs, Its probably time for an upgrade at this point.
        More info here http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1128098

        And I also have a vid of what happens if its cold and i don't heat the tires enough.



        Donovan
        Think you can get down to the high 8's with all the bugs worked out.
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        • BMWSOB
          Grease Monkey
          • Dec 2005
          • 311

          #169
          With the bugs worked out and some more power i think so. Nothing a little nitrous cant help... Hopefully getting the chassis squared away for a 8.50 cert.
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          • MR 325
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            • Oct 2003
            • 37826

            #170
            ^ Fucking awesome man!
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            • justin_l_
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Jun 2007
              • 1079

              #171
              M50 nv, getrag 250, 2.93lsd junk tires for drifting. Stock engine w/146k, stock ecu, 2.5" exhaust.
              R/T .480
              60' 2.193
              330 6.009
              1/8 9.314
              MPH 76.37
              1/4 14.427 @ 96.64 MPH

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #172
                Originally posted by justin_l_
                M50 nv, getrag 250, 2.93lsd junk tires for drifting. Stock engine w/146k, stock ecu, 2.5" exhaust.
                R/T .480
                60' 2.193
                330 6.009
                1/8 9.314
                MPH 76.37
                1/4 14.427 @ 96.64 MPH
                nice time, I'm guessing with the 2.93 you only had to shift twice? anything done to the chassis to make it lighter?
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                • BeirBrennerE30
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2740

                  #173
                  Originally posted by nando
                  nice time, I'm guessing with the 2.93 you only had to shift twice? anything done to the chassis to make it lighter?
                  yeah those are really good times for the m50nv... makes me hopeful that i really have a high 12 sec car if i could apply power to ground

                  I would have to guess that most of these low 1/4 tires are more due to lack of overall traction than lack of power.
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                  • BMWSOB
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 311

                    #174
                    Originally posted by MR 325
                    ^ Fucking awesome man!
                    Thanks Matt!

                    Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
                    yeah those are really good times for the m50nv... makes me hopeful that i really have a high 12 sec car if i could apply power to ground

                    I would have to guess that most of these low 1/4 tires are more due to lack of overall traction than lack of power.
                    If its just traction, thats easilly fixable with correct suspension tuning and tires. I only really have traction issues on cold cold days.
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                    • 416stroker
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                      • May 2008
                      • 2448

                      #175
                      Originally posted by BMWSOB
                      Thanks Matt!



                      If its just traction, thats easilly fixable with correct suspension tuning and tires. I only really have traction issues on cold cold days.

                      Ya most of the setups are to stiff so the car cant weight transfer.

                      what size slicks are you running bmwsob?
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                      • justin_l_
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1079

                        #176
                        Originally posted by nando
                        nice time, I'm guessing with the 2.93 you only had to shift twice? anything done to the chassis to make it lighter?
                        Oops, I lied. I was running the stock 2.79lsd. With the getrag 250 it seems more like having a 260 with something between a 2.93 and 3.25lsd. I got into 4th by the end of the track, prolly around the 1000ft mark.
                        As for weight, not much. Took the tar out of the trunk and the padding out from under the carpet because it was gross. No spare tire or jack. I think I could have gotten a couple tenths off if I had good subframe bushings. Wheel hop was horrible, sounded like something was going to break so I kept letting off.
                        Hopefully next year I will break into the 13's. Replacing my subframe bushings, chip should be in soon and will get a good set of tires instead of some free junk, although I didn't really have any issue with traction.

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                        • BMWSOB
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 311

                          #177
                          Originally posted by 416stroker
                          Ya most of the setups are to stiff so the car cant weight transfer.

                          what size slicks are you running bmwsob?
                          Im running a 24x9.2x15. It just barely fits in and rubs with a lot of fender rolling. 24.5x8x14 fits nicely on a pair of weaves. I took out the GC coil overs in the rear and put the STOCK rear springs back in. That with a tall 200lb front spring seems to have done the trick. It has lifted the wheels a few times here and there, it squats HARD.
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                          • MIKe30
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 2334

                            #178
                            Originally posted by nando
                            I guess I've just come to expect dissapointment. there are so many exaggerated claims of power and acceleration you pretty much have to expect it to be not quite as fast as you thought. The truth always hurts a bit; when people go from their imaginary race times (dude I totally just smoked a viper light to light!) and then go to an actual track they don't like what they get because the clock doesn't lie.
                            I hear what you're saying. But i think a lot of guys that post times for their swaps are guys that have no track experience. Only going because they want to see what their swap car can do. Which will be me when I'm done. Unless I take my bike to the track in the spring just for some fun.
                            Originally posted by golde30
                            word.

                            my s50 was low mileage, but i rebuilt it and when i took it to the drags, i expected low 14 to 14.0, best run was a 14.5. with my m20 my best time was a 15.9 i believe, so i was kinda happy, but at the same time depressed that $8kish got me only 1.5sec faster.
                            Ah fuck. I'm hoping it's just because of traction..

                            Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
                            yeah those are really good times for the m50nv... makes me hopeful that i really have a high 12 sec car if i could apply power to ground

                            I would have to guess that most of these low 1/4 tires are more due to lack of overall traction than lack of power.
                            They are good times. Sounds like a good driver. I'd like to see what he could do with a 3.2 liter...

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                            • justin_l_
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1079

                              #179
                              Originally posted by MIKe30
                              They are good times. Sounds like a good driver. I'd like to see what he could do with a 3.2 liter...
                              I'd like to see what I could do with a 3.2 also :) Hopefully I'll be able to go FI this year, then I should pull some good times.

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                              • 416stroker
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                                • May 2008
                                • 2448

                                #180
                                Originally posted by BMWSOB
                                Im running a 24x9.2x15. It just barely fits in and rubs with a lot of fender rolling. 24.5x8x14 fits nicely on a pair of weaves. I took out the GC coil overs in the rear and put the STOCK rear springs back in. That with a tall 200lb front spring seems to have done the trick. It has lifted the wheels a few times here and there, it squats HARD.
                                damn that means my old g60/15 arent gonna fit the 26x8
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