Getrag 240 m52 swap driveshaft and tranny questions

[318isbmw]

as long as its the 228mm clutch you should be fine. But why not run the e30 325 single mass flywheel and clutch? Its a heck of a lot lighter than the dual mass and is the same size. I am running a m20 single mass flywheel, IE/Clutchnets sprung 6 puck 228mm clutch, euro 323 TOB, and the getrag 240. It r3vs and grabs very nice. You can even lighten the m20 flywheels a good amt if you want too.

And the stock m42 driveshaft, carrier and shift linkage are too long w/ the i6.

W/ all the searching I've been doin between classes I haven't found a TOB, that's my problem right now, and I've got the m50 dual mass in the garage. I'd much rather run the m20 tho but can't find the 323 TOB.
Any help would be much appreciated.

[dude8383]

W/ all the searching I've been doin between classes I haven't found a TOB, that's my problem right now, and I've got the m50 dual mass in the garage. I'd much rather run the m20 tho but can't find the 323 TOB.
Any help would be much appreciated.

You're going to have to order one new dude.

Call up Patrick @ BMA

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[318isbmw]

You're going to have to order one new dude.

Call up Patrick @ BMA

Part #

21 51 1 204 525

Awesome, thanks I couldn't find it on their site for some reason.

[318isbmw]

One last question, with this setup, do I run e30 318is guibo or what else would I run, just curious before I order everything tomorrow
Thanks

[golde30]

damn, now i cant decide whether to use the getrag240 i have sitting around, or the getrag 260 i also have sitting around. is the 260 any beefier than the 240?

if there are no benefits to the 260, then imma use that 240...

[Teaguer]

damn, now i cant decide whether to use the getrag240 i have sitting around, or the getrag 260 i also have sitting around. is the 260 any beefier than the 240?
if there are no benefits to the 260, then imma use that 240...

Yes the 240 can be ran with less hassles ..like the trans brace and the linkake issues .

But the 260 is rated for higher torque ratings .....not sure on the actual numbers right now .
(although I do remember mention of the 240 and 260 maybe repesenting on the torque ratings ??)

I would say that a M50 is no problem for the 240 but the 3.0 or 3.2 might eventually present problems if repeated high RPM launches are performed .

Having said that .....I'm about to start a 24v swap on next years auto-x car and I'll be running the Getrag 240 with lightened M20 flywheel, E30 6cyl driveshaft and E30 6cyl shift carrier and linkage .

[318isbmw]

Yes the 240 can be ran with less hassles ..like the trans brace and the linkake issues .

But the 260 is rated for higher torque ratings .....not sure on the actual numbers right now .
(although I do remember mention of the 240 and 260 maybe repesenting on the torque ratings ??)

I would say that a M50 is no problem for the 240 but the 3.0 or 3.2 might eventually present problems if repeated high RPM launches are performed .

Having said that .....I'm about to start a 24v swap on next years auto-x car and I'll be running the Getrag 240 with lightened M20 flywheel, E30 6cyl driveshaft and E30 6cyl shift carrier and linkage .

I agree, in future I plan to go 3.0 and I wouldn't trust the 240 to stay together, but m50, no problem.

[golde30]

yah that makes sense. i am building a fresh s50, with plans to mod in the future, so i guess i will stick with my low mileage 260. thanks./

[318isbmw]

yah that makes sense. i am building a fresh s50, with plans to mod in the future, so i guess i will stick with my low mileage 260. thanks./

I would go 260, smart man...

[zav3n]

i just finished mine and im using the 240 w/ stock tranny mounts but i put a spacer underneath the mount. also you have to use a e36 325 manual driveshaft. and as asubimmer said you have to use a 325 shifter carrier and linkage. im also using a m20 flywheel and clutch w/ a m20 starter. my one suggestion would be to use a 3.73 lsd cuz with the 4.10 you fly though all the gears way too quickly and i top out at about 120-135 its kinda annoying when you kill STIs off the line and then the top end your hitting the rev limiter. lol..

o ya stock guibo will be just fine

ill post some pics of my tranny mounts w/ the spacers

ps. thanks asubimmer for all your help w/ my swap

-zaven

[318isbmw]

i just finished mine and im using the 240 w/ stock tranny mounts but i put a spacer underneath the mount. also you have to use a e36 325 manual driveshaft. and as asubimmer said you have to use a 325 shifter carrier and linkage. im also using a m20 flywheel and clutch w/ a m20 starter. my one suggestion would be to use a 3.73 lsd cuz with the 4.10 you fly though all the gears way too quickly and i top out at about 120-135 its kinda annoying when you kill STIs off the line and then the top end your hitting the rev limiter. lol..

o ya stock guibo will be just fine

ill post some pics of my tranny mounts w/ the spacers

ps. thanks asubimmer for all your help w/ my swap

-zaven

Sweet, ya my plans are to swap the 4.10 out in a bit, once I get some of my money back.
Thanks much for the info on the guibo...

[318isbmw]

What TOB should I be using, and do I need the 318 starter, or the e36 325i starter? This is with the e36 325i flywheel and clutch.
Thanks.

[318isbmw]

One last question, curious what slave cylinder I should be running. I just kept the stock one, but not positive and having issues.
Thanks

[btec116]

As Long as its the later E30's, all the (small 1,4kW) starter motors should be the same. They were the same units between my E30/M40, and E36/M52! Down to the part number!
The mount is the same for all of them into the bellhousing, the only thing you have to be careful of is that the teeth on the starter and flywheel mesh.
I had a massive hassle, ran the old M20 fw with the older, fine teeth, would only work with the old whale-of-a-starter fitted to the series-1's, which hit the inlet manifold
Hey 318isbmw, how did your EWS stuff go? I seem to remember you had ECU issues a few weeks back???

[btec116]

Lemme see I can answer all your "Using The Getrag 240" questions.

-Use the pilot bearing that was ment for your motor.

Correction, use the pilot bearing with an OD to fit your crank, and an ID to fit your gearbox input spigot. Especially between M50/52, there are two different bearings, for different geaboxes (Getrag/ZF I think)
Anyway, one has a little hole, one has a big hole. You Gotta get it right!
I used an M20 pilot bearing, on an M52 with a G260. It works.