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    #16
    Originally posted by JGood View Post
    It's an e34 block so I had to shift them back to the holes the e36 uses. There's 6 holes total, I have both sides on the rear 4 holes. I'm using e36 brackets, and I pulled them off the e36.
    This is how the mounts mounted connected on my m52 if this helps :

    driver side-



    passenger side-

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      #17
      Yep, that's how mine are.

      Now the fucker won't start. It cranks and cranks and cranks, and gets fuel pressure, but no spark. Main relay has power.

      Any common things to check?

      I have 537 ohms on my CPS... I thought that was the m20 expected rating, and m50 was 1280? The engine ran great before I removed it a few months ago from the 525i...

      I also hooked pin 20 of x20 up to my wire going to the green tach connector, and the tach doesn't jump at all when I try to crank it over.
      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
      e30 restoration and V8 swap
      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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        #18
        Crankshaft position/rpm sensor should be 1280 ohms +/- 10% according to e36 bentley.
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          #19
          Apparently, the Bentley is wrong, and I should be looking for 540 +/- 10.

          So what things should I be looking for, with a no spark condition, with power at the main relay? I know NOTHING about m50's or their ignition systems.

          My wiring is good, I just went through and did a continuity test across the harness, and double checked the pin-outs. I have my c104 hooked up (pin 1 to x20 14, pin 3 to x20 pin 24). x20 pin 20 goes to the wire on the green connector on the back of the cluster.

          All sensors are hooked up on the engine harness (I never disconnected any of them). I have a ground attached to the drivers side engine arm, the coil pack ground on the rear of the valve cover, the single wire at the front of the engine, the two wires near the ECU grounded, the power wire near the ECU hooked up, the ECU is grounded.

          I'm getting fuel pressure, I know because I left a line loose and it sprayed everywhere. The line from the pump is on the bottom silver hard line. I switched them just for shits and giggles, no change.
          85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
          e30 restoration and V8 swap
          24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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            #20
            Check the resistance on the Cam sensor as well, but it sounds like a bad Crank sensor. I forget if the cam is around 540ohms or 1280ohms.

            Check for anything else that may be disconnected like the MAF, TPS, or Intake temp sensor.
            Originally posted by BillBrasky
            E36's are the Stephen Baldwin of the 3 series family. They barely hold everything together and they only sold a lot because of the popularity of their older sibling.
            1991 318i Alpine II - S50/5-lug swapped - track car
            1989 325i Cirrusblau - Daily
            1970 2500 - Malaga over Grey Cloth
            2012 F350 6.7PSD

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              #21
              Here is a question...

              Why does my car have two throttle bodys? It's got the main one that I see all m50's have, then there is like a second throttle body housing in front of it, with another flap, actuated by another lever (I'm guessing cruise control)? The second one is always open, and when you pull the lever, it closes. There is a sensor on the top of that second one, a 3 pin sensor, looks like a TPS. There's no connector on my harness for it, so I assume it's cruise control. Could this be causing any issues?
              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
              e30 restoration and V8 swap
              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                #22
                Originally posted by BenM View Post
                Check the resistance on the Cam sensor as well, but it sounds like a bad Crank sensor. I forget if the cam is around 540ohms or 1280ohms.

                Check for anything else that may be disconnected like the MAF, TPS, or Intake temp sensor.

                Why does it sound like a bad crank sensor, if it tested out ok?

                It's also weird a sensor would go bad in the short time it took to pull the motor from the e34 and put it in an e30. But, anything is possible...
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by JGood View Post
                  Here is a question...

                  Why does my car have two throttle bodys? It's got the main one that I see all m50's have, then there is like a second throttle body housing in front of it, with another flap, actuated by another lever (I'm guessing cruise control)? The second one is always open, and when you pull the lever, it closes. There is a sensor on the top of that second one, a 3 pin sensor, looks like a TPS. There's no connector on my harness for it, so I assume it's cruise control. Could this be causing any issues?
                  From what you describe, I believe that is the ASC+T. Maybe someone can tell you for sure. I think it can be deleted easily.

                  I think I am going to rescind my thought of it being a bad CPS. If it wasn't operating properly, then you wouldn't be getting fuel. Make sure you check the cam sensor as well. Maybe a large vacuum leak?
                  Originally posted by BillBrasky
                  E36's are the Stephen Baldwin of the 3 series family. They barely hold everything together and they only sold a lot because of the popularity of their older sibling.
                  1991 318i Alpine II - S50/5-lug swapped - track car
                  1989 325i Cirrusblau - Daily
                  1970 2500 - Malaga over Grey Cloth
                  2012 F350 6.7PSD

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                    #24
                    Hmmm... I'll see if I can confirm in another manual since you are saying Bentley is wrong...

                    Two TB flaps, sounds like you are you using an OBD2 tb?
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jean View Post
                      Hmmm... I'll see if I can confirm in another manual since you are saying Bentley is wrong...

                      Two TB flaps, sounds like you are you using an OBD2 tb?

                      I pulled it from a 94. It has a red label ECU as well.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by BenM View Post
                        From what you describe, I believe that is the ASC+T. Maybe someone can tell you for sure. I think it can be deleted easily.

                        You are right, this is what I have...



                        Is this going to cause an issue not being hooked up? I'll deal with removing that stuff after I get the damn thing running if I can...
                        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                        e30 restoration and V8 swap
                        24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                          #27
                          what diff cover are you using? maybe its the pic but the diff looks a little cocked to the right, just a thought. Also I will snap some pics of my mounting arms on my m50 just for more reference.
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                            #28
                            The only one that fits an e30....

                            As I said, everything minus the engine has worked fine in the car for years... nothing changed.
                            85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                            e30 restoration and V8 swap
                            24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jean View Post
                              Hmmm... I'll see if I can confirm in another manual since you are saying Bentley is wrong...

                              Two TB flaps, sounds like you are you using an OBD2 tb?
                              His cps reading is fine. Bentley is wrong 540 is ok.
                              84 318I Delphin RIP
                              87 325IS delphin 24v Sold
                              89 325 Alpineweiss

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                                #30
                                Was your car originally an automatic car? Do you have the reverse switch wire hooked up?

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