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  • johnjohnsons54
    Wrencher
    • Mar 2012
    • 228

    #46
    Much appreciated Janderson. Looks like a fine setup you have there. I'm particularly fond of the way the whole thing tucks underneath as well as the dual tips that shoot straight out the back. Any guess as to why yours has no rasp at all, even without cats?

    I'd like to think my shop could merge my headers together with a y-pipe as well as jam a cat in there before the first muffler.

    Be sure to post up a sound clip if you ever get the chance to make one. I, for one, would love to hear it!

    Any opinions on the Aero Stealth mufflers (to be used instead of a borla for the mid muffler) that are also for sale through verociousmotorsports.com?

    Last edited by johnjohnsons54; 06-27-2012, 12:42 AM.

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    • BBDirtbiking
      Grease Monkey
      • Apr 2012
      • 323

      #47
      ^The ceramic coating inside and out removed his rasp.

      I haven't got my exhaust on yet, but I will be rocking my 3 foot resonator in hopes of killing the rasp, it worked on the M42 and that was BAD.

      I just hope the free stainless steel exhaust I got isn't too loud, or I will have to pair some different mufflers with it that I have laying around.
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      • Jand3rson
        Banned
        • Oct 2003
        • 37587

        #48
        Originally posted by BBDirtbiking
        ^The ceramic coating inside and out removed his rasp.
        This. They are inside/outside coated, and since the metal of the headers is so thin, the ceramic coating gives them a dense new coating, and deadens the vibration in the metal, which is what causes the rasp in the first place.

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        • johnjohnsons54
          Wrencher
          • Mar 2012
          • 228

          #49
          Originally posted by Janderson
          This. They are inside/outside coated, and since the metal of the headers is so thin, the ceramic coating gives them a dense new coating, and deadens the vibration in the metal, which is what causes the rasp in the first place.

          Copy that. I was unaware that they were coating the inside of headers. Makes perfect sense!

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          In the works: UUC Evo 3/DSSR, JB Racing lightweight Flywheel, Shrick cams, BBK (yet to be determined)
          I NEED A WINGLESS AW TRUNK LID PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVE ONE!

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          • Jand3rson
            Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 37587

            #50
            Originally posted by johnjohnsons54
            Copy that. I was unaware that they were coating the inside of headers. Makes perfect sense!
            Not every place does it, and if they've been on the car already, there's a good chance they won't be able to sandblast the insides of them well enough to create a clean bonding surface. You have to make sure that you request that the inside is done, as well.

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            • SwiftE30
              E30 Modder
              • Jun 2010
              • 998

              #51
              I didn't know you could ceramic coat the inside, thats awesome. Does a shop have to do it or is there a DIY way to do it?
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              • BBDirtbiking
                Grease Monkey
                • Apr 2012
                • 323

                #52
                For a real ceramic coating you need to take it to a shop, they run usually around $200 for an inline 6.
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                Brandon {Current: 1991 318iS, 2007 328i, 2014 X5 xDrive35d | Past: 1992 525i, 1997 528i, 1999 540i}

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                • Jand3rson
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 37587

                  #53
                  Originally posted by BBDirtbiking
                  For a real ceramic coating you need to take it to a shop, they run usually around $200 for an inline 6.
                  Most powdercoat/ceramic shops charge by the foot. I paid $14 per foot of pipe. Measured from the flanges all the way down each pipe to the collectors, then from the collectors to the ends of the Y-pipe, ended up costing about $160, and then to do the insides was another flat fee of $30.

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                  • johnjohnsons54
                    Wrencher
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 228

                    #54
                    My good friend just returned home with an m50 swap he purchased in WA. The previous owner has put on a custom 2.5in exhaust with two magnaflow mufflers. We took it for a spin tonight and it actually sounded way better than expected...nice and deep, a little bit of rasp higher up.... and it wasn't overly loud from inside the car. I was honestly surprised at how decent it sounded.

                    Would it be correct to assume that that a borla/vibrant combo would probably run a little bit quieter than a dual magnaflow, or just sound better at a similar decibel level? Youtube clips do these set ups no justice whatsoever!

                    Does running catless on these motors actually make noticeable power with the proper tune or is it usually just a matter of of a simpler build?
                    Last edited by johnjohnsons54; 07-03-2012, 11:30 PM.

                    ZF320 | M50 Mani | TRM + 21.5lb Injectors + 3.5in MAF | E36 M3 Rack/Driveshaft | Megan Coilovers | 002R/452's
                    In the works: UUC Evo 3/DSSR, JB Racing lightweight Flywheel, Shrick cams, BBK (yet to be determined)
                    I NEED A WINGLESS AW TRUNK LID PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVE ONE!

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #55
                      Originally posted by johnjohnsons54
                      My good friend just returned home with an m50 swap he purchased in WA. The previous owner has put on a custom 2.5in exhaust with two magnaflow mufflers. We took it for a spin tonight and it actually sounded way better than expected...nice and deep, a little bit of rasp higher up.... and it wasn't overly loud from inside the car. I was honestly surprised at how decent it sounded.

                      Would it be correct to assume that that a borla/vibrant combo would probably run a little bit quieter than a dual magnaflow, or just sound better at a similar decibel level? Youtube clips do these set ups no justice whatsoever!

                      Does running catless on these motors actually make noticeable power with the proper tune or is it usually just a matter of of a simpler build?
                      it might possibly be quieter, i have 3" with a borla/dynomax and it's pretty much silent. I don't know how the vibrant compares, but I like the tips.

                      catless isn't going to do anything for you.
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                      • Jand3rson
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37587

                        #56
                        Originally posted by nando
                        it might possibly be quieter, i have 3" with a borla/dynomax and it's pretty much silent. I don't know how the vibrant compares, but I like the tips.
                        My 2.5"/Borla/Vibrant combo is pretty quiet, almost silent at idle, very quiet at cruising RPMs, only loud when you REALLY get on it, and then it sounds sooooo good.

                        And I love the tips on the Vibrant, one of the best parts of it. :)

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                        • M3PO
                          E30 Addict
                          • May 2012
                          • 537

                          #57
                          Anybody wanna share with me where I can buy that y-pipe?

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                          • BBDirtbiking
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 323

                            #58
                            Originally posted by M3PO
                            Anybody wanna share with me where I can buy that y-pipe?
                            http://www.amazon.com/Flowmaster-Y20...ster+collector

                            This is where I got mine. Lines up pretty well, I think I am going to shorten my headers a bit, this should give it a much more snug feel. If not, just fill it with weld! Haha.
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                            • e30polak
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 6136

                              #59
                              Glad you like my proven recipe Josh! It's always nice when someone finds the right combo!
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                              • e30polak
                                R3V OG
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 6136

                                #60
                                Also, totally forgot I never posted the vids of this exhaust on the dyno when we were messing around at RMS one night. :p

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