M50 alum Flywheel-clutch with G260 tranny OK?

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  • e30strokr
    Wrencher
    • Oct 2011
    • 211

    #1

    M50 alum Flywheel-clutch with G260 tranny OK?

    so Im in a mental block, cant source a single mass '325i" flywheel for cheap so im about to pull the trigger on a lightening SM M50 flywheel with clutch to mate with a manual G260 for my swap, seems it seems M50 people use the M20 clutch kit so I should be OK with this? let me know thanks

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  • moatilliatta
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2005
    • 6121

    #2
    Id stick to steel/ chromoly flywheel on a street car. It'll keep harmonics down and transmission form rattling.

    I was up above it, Now I'm down in it ~ Entropy - A Build thread.
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    • e30strokr
      Wrencher
      • Oct 2011
      • 211

      #3
      Originally posted by moatilliatta
      Id stick to steel/ chromoly flywheel on a street car. It'll keep harmonics down and transmission form rattling.
      thanks for the advice..

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      • jbontke
        E30 Addict
        • Mar 2019
        • 445

        #4
        BMW M20 Lightweight Chrome-Molly Steel Flywheel, standard 228mm clutch fitment. Light and very strong. DMF replacement conversions also available.

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        • e30austin
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Sep 2010
          • 15382

          #5
          with the differences in bell housing depths, i'm going to go out on a limb and say they are not compatible. i would recommend sticking with the clutch and flywheel that matches the transmission you have.


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          • e30strokr
            Wrencher
            • Oct 2011
            • 211

            #6
            Originally posted by e30austin
            with the differences in bell housing depths, i'm going to go out on a limb and say they are not compatible. i would recommend sticking with the clutch and flywheel that matches the transmission you have.
            that does ring a bell.. I seen that some M50 people use the M20 clutch as an "Upgrade" ?!?!

            thanks for the info

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            • Northern
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2010
              • 5045

              #7
              Some early Etas had a deeper bellhousing (maybe would need that 323i TOB?), but late model G260 should be PNP with M5x stuff?

              Take this with a grain of salt, but I think all the 24v and late M20 clutch stack heights are ~the same?
              The TOB is the same part though, and I have an S52 FX racing Chromoly flywheel/S52 clutch and OEM TOB and it seems to fit.
              Starter to match the flywheel
              Slave cyl to match the trans

              I can't imagine the M20 clutch is much of an upgrade, dropping from 240mm to 228mm, unless it's just for a cheap flywheel solution.
              Originally posted by priapism
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              Originally posted by shameson
              Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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              • e30strokr
                Wrencher
                • Oct 2011
                • 211

                #8
                Originally posted by Northern
                Some early Etas had a deeper bellhousing (maybe would need that 323i TOB?), but late model G260 should be PNP with M5x stuff?
                Take this with a grain of salt, but I think all the 24v and late M20 clutch stack heights are ~the same?
                The TOB is the same part though, and I have an S52 FX racing Chromoly flywheel/S52 clutch and OEM TOB and it seems to fit.
                Starter to match the flywheel
                Slave cyl to match the trans

                I can't imagine the M20 clutch is much of an upgrade, dropping from 240mm to 228mm, unless it's just for a cheap flywheel solution.
                thanks for the response .. mine is a 88 SETA late model, I also heard the TOB should be of the M50 to fix the "deep issue" on the bell housing, I am so close to getting this finish and this along with it might being an M52 block is throwing me off for a bit...

                hopefully when all this is done I can update the smog/M50/m52 forums ;) lol

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                • e30austin
                  I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 15382

                  #9
                  SETA (or anything with the twin mass or oversized single mass flywheel) had the deep bellhousing, FWIW.


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                  • e30strokr
                    Wrencher
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 211

                    #10
                    Originally posted by e30austin
                    SETA (or anything with the twin mass or oversized single mass flywheel) had the deep bellhousing, FWIW.
                    I was told using the M50 TOB should help that issue..?

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                    • e30austin
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 15382

                      #11
                      Originally posted by e30strokr

                      I was told using the M50 TOB should help that issue..?
                      can't tell you either way, because i've never done that, but just letting you know you have the deep bellhousing.


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                      • e30strokr
                        Wrencher
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 211

                        #12
                        Originally posted by e30austin

                        can't tell you either way, because i've never done that, but just letting you know you have the deep bellhousing.
                        thanks for the advice/info

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                        • jbontke
                          E30 Addict
                          • Mar 2019
                          • 445

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Northern

                          The TOB is the same part though, and I have an S52 FX racing Chromoly flywheel/S52 clutch and OEM TOB and it seems to fit.
                          Is this FX racing the same brand I see on eBay? I have an s52 from an auto and need Flywheel/TOB/Clutch/pilot bearing/flywheel bots... pretty much a kit that is for sale for a good price.

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                          • Northern
                            R3V Elite
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5045

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jbontke

                            Is this FX racing the same brand I see on eBay? I have an s52 from an auto and need Flywheel/TOB/Clutch/pilot bearing/flywheel bots... pretty much a kit that is for sale for a good price.
                            Yes, that's where I've bought mine. I've seen the kits go as cheap as $240usd, but that was before COVID times...
                            I think a dozen others sell the same flywheel in their kits also and I'm not sure if there's a difference in the rest of the kit.
                            I bought the Stage 3 setup and it came with an Sachs S52 clutch that I could see the etched part number through the blue paint.

                            The TOB and pilot bearing I'd say are worth throwing in the bin and buying something OEM. A few people have had problem with them, and once I had the two side by side, the FX TOB felt really cheap.

                            I planned to turbo the car, so I went with the stage 3, but I know a guy who does autox/lapping with his M3 and he as like 5 years without issues on the stage 2.
                            Also drifting/clutch kicking seems to destroy the stage 3 clutch quickly.

                            It came with flywheel bolts, which I used with loctite. They're 10.9 instead of 12.9 but I've put ~350whp through them for a while with no issues.

                            Don't forget a new pivot pin, I used a new stock plastic one.
                            Originally posted by priapism
                            My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
                            Originally posted by shameson
                            Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                            • jbontke
                              E30 Addict
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 445

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Northern
                              Don't forget a new pivot pin, I used a new stock plastic one.
                              Is this a part for the clutch fork?

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