S54 advice and considerations

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  • Wh33lhop
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2009
    • 11705

    #166
    Originally posted by Wanganstyle
    Extra clutches adds MU by doubling surface area; just like a single/double/triple plate tilton for 1,000hp++ supra.
    I get how that is supposed to work but that would require a mating friction surface as well. I was under the impression that you just stack the clutches which would do nothing for surface area and just act as a shim. I guess I was mistaken--which is good, because it would be pretty dumb to do it that way.
    paint sucks

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    • Wh33lhop
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2009
      • 11705

      #167
      Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
      Thanks! I was thinking I was going to have to be the ass who points out what Torsen is... ;)

      Like Wanganstyle said, changing the number of clutch disks changes the relationship of locking torque to clamp load on the disks.
      IE, (pulling numbers out of the air) a 45 degree ramp with a 2 plate clutch pack might deliver 200 ftlbs of locking torque at a given driveshaft torque. The Bellville spring might give it 50 ftlbs of locking torque from preload.
      The same ramp with a 4 plate clutch would deliver 400 ftlbs of locking torque at the same driveshaft torque. The same bellville spring in the 4 plate unit would have 100 ftlbs of locking torque from preload, BUT using a softer bellville spring can drop the 4 plate unit back down to 50 ftlbs.

      So the number of disks *DOES* affect the slope of the locking torque vs drive torque curve.
      LJ851 posted while I was writing, but I already knew what a bellville spring is ;)
      Again, I got that in theory, but from how people were talking about building a diff it seems like they were just stacking the clutches one on top of another, which made no sense. A simple misconception is all.
      paint sucks

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      • giantkeeper
        E30 Fanatic
        • Aug 2009
        • 1416

        #168
        Soo, about those S54's :D
        Originally posted by blunttech
        Always Always go for the reach around if there is an option

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        • Wanganstyle
          R3VLimited
          • Apr 2010
          • 2828

          #169
          as far as S54 news is concerned; currently working on a parallel DME solution to allow for "obd2" port function with S54 and OBD2 non s54 DME......

          Originally posted by giantkeeper
          Soo, about those S54's :D
          s54 port porn.




          silly little fingers are awesome.


          hiding in the woodwork, machine shop was double thumbs up on all the OEM CNC work.

          Last edited by Wanganstyle; 09-22-2011, 10:52 AM.
          OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

          Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



          Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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          • Thing30
            Advanced Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 171

            #170
            Anyone have personal experience with SC Typhoon ECU...

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            • VinniE30
              R3VLimited
              • May 2010
              • 2113

              #171
              Would a M42 radiator work OK with the s54? Cooling capacity? Seems like it works just as good as the other radiators with the 24v swaps.
              Zinno '89 <24v swap in progress>

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              • e30m3s54turbo
                No R3VLimiter
                • Jun 2010
                • 3194

                #172
                VinniE30 m42 should work.
                Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                • VinniE30
                  R3VLimited
                  • May 2010
                  • 2113

                  #173
                  This would be so cool:
                  All aluminum M42 style radiator with built in reservoir
                  Zinno '89 <24v swap in progress>

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                  • gobuffs
                    E30 Addict
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 513

                    #174
                    I added a roundy round all aluminum triple pass radiator for $199. Cools better and cheaper than anything you'll find that is specific for BMW and is 1/3 the price.

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