Functional rear spoilers?

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  • 2mAn
    Señior Mod
    • Aug 2010
    • 20168

    #1

    Functional rear spoilers?

    Are any of the options we have actually functional?
    Simon
    Current Cars:
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    -1986 German Car
    -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

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  • goarmy
    Mod Crazy
    • Nov 2011
    • 622

    #2
    E30 m3 would be my best bet as the championship records speak for them self's.

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    • blue plates
      E30 Addict
      • Feb 2014
      • 580

      #3
      No!
      Originally posted by IRON-E
      Yeah, you're definitely a vw

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      • agent
        Vice Grand Pubaa
        • Mar 2010
        • 7960

        #4
        There was a discussion here on drag coefficients a couple of years ago. I seem to recall it mentioned the iS spoiler as being functional, but only by a fraction.
        Originally posted by kronus
        would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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        • Daeldalus
          Grease Monkey
          • Nov 2012
          • 304

          #5
          downforce or drag coefficient?
          m3 evo is probably the best downforce without doing super ricer wing

          a vortex generator roof spoiler may be the best for drag coefficient

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          • ELVA164
            R3V Elite
            • Dec 2011
            • 4861

            #6
            Originally posted by agent
            There was a discussion here on drag coefficients a couple of years ago. I seem to recall it mentioned the iS spoiler as being functional, but only by a fraction.
            That sounds familiar to me as well. It was like 3% reduction in turbulence behind the car? Also the db spoiler valance gained the SE30 guys like 5mph on the straights.
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            • MPLFoster
              E30 Fanatic
              • May 2013
              • 1490

              #7
              Interesting...i'd like to know as much info about my Hartge spoiler as possible. Was wondering if there is any benefit to either drag coefficient or down-force.

              anyone actually using vortex generators on the roof combined with a deck-lid spoiler? Any data?

              form.follows.function IG @mplfoster

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              • AndrewBird
                The Mad Scientist
                • Oct 2003
                • 11892

                #8
                Why do you even care? I'm assuming this is on a street car not a race car, so WGAF?

                I've always understood that downforce is negligible at speeds under 100 mph with just about any wing on any car.

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                • mrcheezle19
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1451

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                  Why do you even care? I'm assuming this is on a street car not a race car, so WGAF?

                  I've always understood that downforce is negligible at speeds under 100 mph with just about any wing on any car.
                  one more thing to discuss about your car at the meets brahh.


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                  Dude this is r3v. 20 bucks gets you a used timing belt or a low mileage head gasket

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                  • MPLFoster
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • May 2013
                    • 1490

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                    Why do you even care? I'm assuming this is on a street car not a race car, so WGAF?

                    I've always understood that downforce is negligible at speeds under 100 mph with just about any wing on any car.
                    all sarcasm aside...

                    Originally posted by mrcheezle19
                    one more thing to discuss about your car at the meets brahh.
                    ...this^

                    It's interesting to know. mostly interested in drag since the right aero mods can contribute to MPG.

                    form.follows.function IG @mplfoster

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                    • 15Michaeljoseph
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1693

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                      Why do you even care? I'm assuming this is on a street car not a race car, so WGAF?

                      I've always understood that downforce is negligible at speeds under 100 mph with just about any wing on any car.
                      I'm not sure about that... I'd say downforce starts becoming a thing around 65-70 no?


                      --Mike
                      (OO=[][]=OO) For Life

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                      • ELVA164
                        R3V Elite
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 4861

                        #12
                        Ask those who know (e.g. engineers, racers, or both in one) and they'll say it makes a difference at even autocross speeds, especially in a light car. Air is pretty dense fluid. I know that only because I also believed it didn't matter and got told.
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                        • 2mAn
                          Señior Mod
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 20168

                          #13
                          Theres some crazy spoilers on the fast autox cars and those speeds are never over 100mph, so Id say they are useful. My car is all about function over form, and every little bit adds up. Front spoiler, rear spoiler, mirrors, etc. these are all things Im looking into improving as long as its not the 0.01% improvement that the iS does
                          Simon
                          Current Cars:
                          -1966 Lotus Elan
                          -1986 German Car
                          -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

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                          • blue plates
                            E30 Addict
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 580

                            #14
                            I take laxatives before I race, every pound counts.
                            Originally posted by IRON-E
                            Yeah, you're definitely a vw

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                            • e30m3s54turbo
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 3204

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mrcheezle19
                              one more thing to discuss about your car at the meets brahh.
                              Check the red e30 in his sig. It has a Zender wing with a adjustable flap.
                              Last edited by e30m3s54turbo; 08-05-2014, 09:55 PM.
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