Ipod in Car?

[Kruzen]

kenwood/sony keg with lossless audio tracks > ipod solution

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http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/product.jsp?productId=2373

KEY FEATURES
- Cartridge Stores 20GB (Roughly 5,000 Songs)
- Compatible with Most 2001-2002 and select 1998-2000 Kenwood Head Units with Changer Control and CD Text Capability
- Compatible with Virtually Any Car Stereo (using optional KCA-R71FM adapter)
- Records, Organizes, Stores and Plays Digital Music Files: MP3, WMA, WAV, FLAC(here you go jordan, lossless audio for your enjoyment)
- System Includes Car Unit, Music Storage Cartridge and Desktop Unit


they have cartridges up to 80gb now iirc.

sony makes the 'phatnoise' box which is the same thing, both companies licensesd the technology or something.

and. it works great, my brother's been running it in his car for a year or two now, and i'll be getting one for my kenwood headunit sometime soon.

edit: you can get them pretty cheap off ebay, don't be turned away by the price on their site

[bimmerphile]

heh, ok


I can take my audio with me, somewhere other than my car.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/import.html

Apple Lossless audio format, also available.



Give apple about a week to release 80GB iPods at macworld.

[KenC]

Which format is lossless? AAC? Will my 1st Gen iPod play those files?

[KnYnE]

your first gen ipod PLAYS aac, thats the default incodeing of itunes.

[KenC]

your first gen ipod PLAYS aac, thats the default incodeing of itunes.

but is aac the lossless format? Whats the diff between them and MP3s?

[KnYnE]

AAC is lossless...

but requires 2:1 data compression so if you incode lossless you will fit less on your ipod

AAC is standard 192 incodeing so it sounds good, damn good... but its compressed differntly than MP3, soo you can fit more on your ipod. But your ipod can play .mp3 and AAC so your fine :p

also AAC has some copy procetion technology.... thank itunes for that. but unless your not riping and burning from your ipod all the time, you wont notice

[KenC]

AAC is lossless...

but requires 2:1 data compression so if you incode lossless you will fit less on your ipod

AAC is standard 192 incodeing so it sounds good, damn good... but its compressed differntly than MP3, soo you can fit more on your ipod. But your ipod can play .mp3 and AAC so your fine :p

also AAC has some copy procetion technology.... thank itunes for that. but unless your not riping and burning from your ipod all the time, you wont notice

So which AAC bitrate is lossless?

Most of my MP3s are encoded at 320kpbs... which AAC bitrate is equal to that?

[KnYnE]

AAC; Lossless..... its 192 as well its just doesnt use the wierd apple compression

[Kruzen]

i owned a 10gb and a 40gb ipod for about a year each and sold both of them.

Theyre nice, but its too much music to have on you at one time, and too clumsy to try to use in the car.

I'd always get in the car and just say 'fuck it' cause i couldn't find something to listen to cause there was too much music on it.

only time i used it really was my 5 hour work shifts.

[KenC]

Theyre nice, but its too much music to have on you at one time, and too clumsy to try to use in the car.

I'd always get in the car and just say 'fuck it' cause i couldn't find something to listen to cause there was too much music on it.

It can be a pain sometimes in the car, which is why I just browse by songs and have the thing on random.

How can you complain that it holds too much music? Would you rather always have to hook it up to the computer and transfer and erase shit when you get sick of what you've been listening to?

[Kruzen]

Do you realize how much 40gb of 320vbr mp3's is?

My mp3 collection (sorted, not including unsorted files) is 9700 songs, 49gb. All are majoratively 320VBR -apx, some are 192vbr aps

Picking something to listen to, with that tiny screen as your search reference, is tedious and stupid.

I don't have time to make 9 million playlists for different things, the next mp3 player i buy will be a 512mb or 1gb iriver that is flash based and gets 40+ hours of battery life, will let me throw a handfull of albums on there that i'm currently enjoying to listen to for a few days.

that makes much more sense to me than having a huge library of music at your fingertips at all times. No one really needs something like that, the only place its useful is at the workplace where you can't bring your whole collection you'd listen to on your computer at home with you. That, or long car trips are the only scenario's in which an ipod would make sense. For day to day purposes, a small flash based mp3 player makes the most sense.

[Ducati]

Anyone that thinks any bitrate MP3 compares to CD quality is ignorant. If you say "well I can't hear any difference" its because you aren't listening, and most likely do not have a good system.

I agree with jordan, I'm very anal about my stereo.

[mgold]

As somewhat of an expert on the topic of the iPod and iTunes, let me clarify this topic for you. For starters, AAC is not lossless. As for encryption, AAC only uses DRM (digital rights management) if its purchased music. As for quality, a 128bit AAC file ripped through iTunes is similar in quality to a 160bit MP3, hence you can fit more on an iPod if you use AAC. Apple does have a lossless encoder in the latest versions of iTunes, however, they only play on dock connector models (including the mini) but require the latest iPod software. They will also not play on the iPod Shuffle (and honestly you wouldn't want to at a rate of 5MB per minute). Lossless files are compressed approximately 2:1.
Hope this helps.

[KenC]

Anyone that thinks any bitrate MP3 compares to CD quality is ignorant. If you say "well I can't hear any difference" its because you aren't listening, and most likely do not have a good system.

I agree with jordan, I'm very anal about my stereo.

Then why're you asking for suggestions on a cheap ass deck and speakers in the ICE forum? LOL

[KenC]

As somewhat of an expert on the topic of the iPod and iTunes, let me clarify this topic for you. For starters, AAC is not lossless. As for encryption, AAC only uses DRM (digital rights management) if its purchased music. As for quality, a 128bit AAC file ripped through iTunes is similar in quality to a 160bit MP3, hence you can fit more on an iPod if you use AAC. Apple does have a lossless encoder in the latest versions of iTunes, however, they only play on dock connector models (including the mini) but require the latest iPod software. They will also not play on the iPod Shuffle (and honestly you wouldn't want to at a rate of 5MB per minute). Lossless files are compressed approximately 2:1.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for clearing that up. I knew that all of the bitrates couldn't be lossless.