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  • Thizzy
    Noobie
    • Sep 2023
    • 9

    #1

    M10 help plz

    I recently purchased a 1985 318i that had sat for 22years…..long story short I flushed everything and have replaced fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, fuel filter as well as tons of the fuel lines. It has new spark plugs and oil filter as well as new fluids. The car will only start and stay running if I pinch the fuel supply line to the fuel rail. Once you do that the car will start and run Just fine until it gets to temp then the fuel pump starts to heat up and the car shuts off. I’m pretty new to e30s and the m10 any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • reelizmpro
    R3V OG
    • Dec 2003
    • 9452

    #2
    What about the tank? was the tank in good condition internally? Which fuel pump did you buy? Did you pinch the supply or did you mean return line?
    "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

    85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
    88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
    89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
    91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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    • Thizzy
      Noobie
      • Sep 2023
      • 9

      #3
      Yessir tank was fine nothing internally maybe I will pull the push pump from inside but I replaced the in line fuel pump it was the one that was making a ton of noise when It did run.

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      • 82eye
        E30 Mastermind
        • Jan 2009
        • 1897

        #4
        check or replace your fpr

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        • Thizzy
          Noobie
          • Sep 2023
          • 9

          #5
          Already replaced that as well I’m boiling it down to possibly an injector issue atm? But the car I’ve seen it run and don’t show any signs of something major

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          • Sunnyledge
            Wrencher
            • Nov 2017
            • 216

            #6
            I would consider checking the fuel pressure at the fuel rail. It should be 3 atm or 42 psi +/- since that is what the M10 pressure regulator is rated for. It doesn’t sound like you’re getting too little fuel. If the fuel pressure regulator is bad (I know you said it’s new, but that doesn’t guarantee it’s functional) or there is an obstruction in the return line that could cause your in line pump to overheat.

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            • TobyB
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2011
              • 5168

              #7
              ...yeah, +1 for fuel pressure,
              and not running without the line pinched (how the heck did you discover THAT worked?) makes it sound like it's
              a regulator issue- possibly the new one has different inlets and outlets, and it's bypassing the regulator entirely.

              Last I looked the in- tank pump was expensive- but any low- pressure generic pump will work. This probably isn't your
              problem here, but the pressure test will help diagnose that.
              t
              now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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              • packratbimmer
                E30 Fanatic
                • Dec 2009
                • 1329

                #8
                Any chance that you reversed the fuel lines at the rail? I would test fuel pressure, fuel delivery and the regulator as stated above. Also, there was a similar thread recently and the culprit was the fuel pump relay. Good luck!

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                • Thizzy
                  Noobie
                  • Sep 2023
                  • 9

                  #9
                  Thank you guys update on the car is I got the pressure tester at the rail I’m instantly climbing over 50psi car runs just fine at 40…my question is would the fuel pump relay control on and off function as well as voltage!? I feel like the pump is getting over volted and it’s causing it to overheat and also over work!

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                  • Sunnyledge
                    Wrencher
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 216

                    #10
                    The pump should be running continuously, as long as the engine is running. The fuel pump relay will not power the pump if there is no ignition signal or if the starter motor is not powered. The pressure regulator allows “excess” fuel to flow back to the fuel tank. Engine vacuum helps to regulate how the pressure regulator works.

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                    • Thizzy
                      Noobie
                      • Sep 2023
                      • 9

                      #11
                      Thank you the pump is running continuously and turning on every time there it is over pressuring it hits 50psi instantly and dies. I’ve cleaned and checked every line and the tank. It has to be that the pump is being over powered and producing more than the 40psi it’s rated for. The pressure regulator is working fine it’s dumping excess fuel back into the tank but the issue is the pressure is reaching 50psi instantly and it should not be the pump is brand new also the oem pump is doing the same. There has to be a voltage problem and I was just wondering if the relay would play a party there.

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                      • Sunnyledge
                        Wrencher
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 216

                        #12
                        The pump will receive battery voltage at start up, which should be 12.6 V for a healthy battery. When the car is running you should see approximately 13.5 - 14 V if the alternator charging. So you may want to check the output of the alternator. If you’re getting much above 14 V then you may have a bad alternator voltage regulator.

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                        • Thizzy
                          Noobie
                          • Sep 2023
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Thank you I will go play with the voltage meter now and post an update

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                          • Sunnyledge
                            Wrencher
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 216

                            #14
                            Another thing is to be sure the correct pump for your car is installed. Is is OEM (Bosch) or aftermarket. They all pretty much look alike, but you may have a pump that is producing a much higher gph flow. There are high performance pumps that can produce 2x the required flow. I still would suspect the fuel pressure regulator if you’re getting high pressures and the return line is clear. Could the vacuum line attached to the FPR obstructed?

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                            • 82eye
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1897

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sunnyledge
                              you may have a pump that is producing a much higher gph flow. I still would suspect the fuel pressure regulator if you’re getting high pressures and the return line is clear. Could the vacuum line attached to the FPR obstructed?
                              agree with this.

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