M20 Injectors - Why use m50?

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  • Winh
    Noobie
    • May 2014
    • 17

    #31
    Trying not to re-revive this thread, but I may be in the same boat as Dodobrown, as sometimes I have a gas smell, and mostly everything is stock, except magnaflow muffler and CAI.
    I have a 325is 88'
    Trying to fix that issue, and to increase power, if i only want to run the usual bolt-on mods, should I just stick with the 17 lb m50 greentops ?

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    • mr.vang
      R3V Elite
      • May 2010
      • 4371

      #32
      Originally posted by TC Baur MD
      I bought and installed the M50 bosch injectors, 17lb, for my m20 (with chip) and feel it helped my performance and starts. One of the best upgrades I ever did.

      This is where I got my rebuilt ones from.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E36-M3-3...item2ed1d34377
      Your 20+ years old injectors are tired, so of course with a fresh set installed, you'll feel a difference. I rebuilted my stock injectors and see the improvement right away.
      Bought parts from me before? leave your feedback here

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      • ADEN
        Mod Crazy
        • Feb 2008
        • 620

        #33
        Reviving the thread and adding my experience with green injectors car runs great with them idle steady but when my O2 sensor starts to act i got the worse gas mileage runs super RICH, maybe ecu stays at open loop and use the base map and signal width for fuel.

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        • PEZ2
          Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 50

          #34
          My experience with both green and pink tops is they don't work in m20 engines very well. My understanding is it's because they Type E twin cone spray pattern designed to be used with 4 valve engines. Each cone sprays on the centerline of each intake valve. Since the M20 has a single intake and the BMW M50 split cone is 17 degree about 50% of the fuel is being sprayed on the lower walls of the intake port. A type C center cone 4 pintle would be a better option. I have had better experience with these on M20 applications.

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          • bleblanc03
            Member
            • May 2017
            • 41

            #35
            Which of these Type C injectors have you used? I just bought green tops and a D'Sylva EAT chip for my M20B25 2.7 stroker build. bleblanc03 | 09.89 Alpine 325is | Find me on the Crest Friday mornings! | @beauschmo

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            • PEZ2
              Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 50

              #36
              I am running Bosch 0280150943 which are 19lb at 3 bar and about 17.5 at 2.5 bar (325e FPR). These are found on lots of Ford cars and are yellow top Bosch L jectronic connectors like an e30. Don't get any which does not have both the Ford oval and The Bosch ( what ever it is in the circle). There are tons of "fakes"

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              • digger
                R3V Elite
                • Nov 2005
                • 5912

                #37
                Originally posted by PEZ2
                My experience with both green and pink tops is they don't work in m20 engines very well. My understanding is it's because they Type E twin cone spray pattern designed to be used with 4 valve engines. Each cone sprays on the centerline of each intake valve. Since the M20 has a single intake and the BMW M50 split cone is 17 degree about 50% of the fuel is being sprayed on the lower walls of the intake port. A type C center cone 4 pintle would be a better option. I have had better experience with these on M20 applications.
                You never want to spray the port with fuel that's how you get liquid fuel into the engine which doesn't burn. A single central cone around 20-25* (iirc) maximum will ensure you hit the hot valve or even better phased to hit the hole (back of valve when valve is open), I always look for stuff used on 2V engines as the easiest way to ascertain a decent spray (without flowing it on a test bench)
                Last edited by digger; 02-15-2021, 07:38 PM.
                89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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