M20 Gates Racing Belt Coming Soon.....

[einstein57]

For the guys who have loads of money into m20 head work, why would you not spend a little more and get the MM non-interference pistons.

I plan on having some non interference 8.5:1 pistons made for my car. I figure as long as i'm getting custom pistons made why not have them non interference.

well a non interference piston lowers the CR due to the massive pockets plus it may not even be possible to fit much larger valves? as well as the lower CR, it also hurts combustion by having all these areas in the chamber that don't burn properly

From MMs catalog
Pistons 3200 Rally, 86mm, Deep Valve Pockets 11.0:1 CR

The gallardo pockets seem pretty deep as well. I'm pretty confident the people who specialize in engine design know way more then i ever will. Even with my mechanical engineering background.

[1owNslo]

I don't see a need for e30s but we have them...

ahhh the "need" and "have" argument begins lol

really dont see what the hurt is. i mean everyone is going to do different stuff on their cars and have different experiences... we argue on here like its the end all be all and those who dont do the norm are the bad ones... and the ones who dont try new things are the bad ones.. a little ridiculous IMHO. id just like to try one out and see how it works... thats really it

[digger]

For the guys who have loads of money into m20 head work, why would you not spend a little more and get the MM non-interference pistons. Drunk, but really?

well a non interference piston lowers the CR due to the massive pockets plus it may not even be possible to fit much larger valves? as well as the lower CR, it also hurts combustion by having all these areas in the chamber that don't burn properly

[Northern]

For the guys who have loads of money into m20 head work, why would you not spend a little more and get the MM non-interference pistons. Drunk, but really?

Although fuck yes to people making stuff for e30s. I know most cars can be swapped, but for the iXers, we're pretty much fucked if they don't. (unless blah blah blah e34ix or custom oilpan business)

[Ether-D]

einstein57, I get that you want to buy the normal belt. That's fine. It's also fine if any of us buy this belt. I'm not buying it because I'm lazy. I'm buying it because I am a big fan of Gates belts.

Like I said before, $100 divided by three years = $3 per month (10¢ a day) for an upgraded belt. Totally worth it. And my argument is rock solid. ;D

Also, nobody knows how much they cost yet.

[FLG]

What about us guys that constantly are going to Redline on our cars? I'm sure the better belt would help.

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[einstein57]

Great argument :roll:


The contitech belt does not just snap with people running ppf cams and making over 600whp under boost. And that belt is $12, $35 including the roller. So i find it a little difficult to understand the need for a stronger $100 belt with 0 information from the manufacturer as far as service intervals. So people are either going to ride it out hoping the belt last 2-3x longer and possibly destroying their motor in the process. Or replace the belt within the standard intervals (3 years /45k miles according to my factory trained 30 year BMW mechanic/father) which the factory belt handles just fine.

[Ether-D]

I change my turbo cars timing belt every 3 years/45k miles. I don't see the need for a better belt unless your just being lazy. Every built m20 has used the same belt and i don't recall a bunch of threads about prematurely snapping belts.

I don't see a need for e30s but we have them...

[Bimmer_man]

Einstein57 i have to agree with you. I just did mine for the first time. It was scary as heck cause i didnt want to mess the thing up. But i think my belt was an extreme case cause it lasted for over 80,000 miles and 8 years without snapping. My car did sit a total of 2 years in that time period. I pushed that belt to the limit.

[einstein57]

I change my turbo cars timing belt every 3 years/45k miles. I don't see the need for a better belt unless your just being lazy. Every built m20 has used the same belt and i don't recall a bunch of threads about prematurely snapping belts.

[KirkerBezerker]

I spoke to them this morning, and they said it was going to ready in December.

They mention the company I work for Turn 14, but we only sell to shops and retailers.

So you'll def want to hit up Blunttech, or JSC Speed for these.

[Hellspeaker]

Oh this is interesting...to say the least.

[Europeaben]

Very interested for when I build the all out 3.2 stroker ;)

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[6SPD]

I'm in for one. Have a new engine being built and the current one is just about up!

[4evere30]

Me likeeee!

ide definetly be in ! already had a belt break before and total almost all the valve s in my old "i" head before i went turbo , now im building a 3.0 stroker + turbo and a better belt and tensioner would be a little more piece of mind for sure
VERY INTERESTED...the timing belt is the only part of the M20 i dislike..