Better Fix for Thermostat Housing Leaks?

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  • Aleman
    E30 Mastermind
    • Mar 2012
    • 1583

    #1

    Better Fix for Thermostat Housing Leaks?

    The thermostat housing is made of aluminum which bends and gouges easily. It can get damaged, and that commonly results in coolant leaks.

    Most people say to put a bead of RTV on the surface of the housing cover where it contacts the base, then button it up at the proper torque spec. This works for a while, but it's messy to clean up when you have to open it up again to change the thermostat down the road.

    Has anyone had success cutting a paper gasket for the therm housing? I would expect that to be a better solution.

    If that works, then I wonder why the hell BMW didn't take that approach from the get go?

    Thanks!
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  • digger
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2005
    • 5912

    #2
    which part leaks? there is an o-ring there, pretty sure it is the part that seals. you can buy new parts they arent very expensive for what it is
    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

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    • Aleman
      E30 Mastermind
      • Mar 2012
      • 1583

      #3
      Better Fix for Thermostat Housing Leaks?

      Originally posted by digger
      which part leaks? there is an o-ring there, pretty sure it is the part that seals. you can buy new parts they arent very expensive for what it is


      I have a new o-ring, but the housing is leaking like a sieve. I think when I was scraping off the PO's RTV I scarred the housing cover-to-base surface. If the rubber o-ring really is the only seal that's needed, I'll take a closer look at the lip where it sits inside the base. Maybe some debris fell in there.

      ....or I'll go and cut me a paper gasket LOL


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      └┼┼┘ /// 1993 Black/Black Convertible (sold)
      ..24

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      • digger
        R3V Elite
        • Nov 2005
        • 5912

        #4
        paper gaskets can work but id use some aviation cement non hardening type and have metal on metal. give the faces a quick linish first off
        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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        • e30davie
          E30 Mastermind
          • Apr 2016
          • 1788

          #5
          Its just an o-ring that seals according to the schematics



          Both surfaces where the o-ring sits need to be perfectly clean.

          Unless you are talking about part #4 in that link, which is the gasket from the thermostat housing to the head.

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          • jeffnhiscars
            R3V OG
            • Jun 2011
            • 6010

            #6
            I spent a lot of time on this leak until I realized I had crimped the o ring so it wasn't seated properly. $2 later it's been fine.
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            • TobyB
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2011
              • 5163

              #7
              Paper gaskets don't work so well on coolant- it wicks its way down the
              paper, eventually softening to mush. Meanwhile, the aluminum starts to corrode.

              Nissan did it that way a long while back. It sucked getting old parts engines apart...

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              • digger
                R3V Elite
                • Nov 2005
                • 5912

                #8
                the one on the back of the head and to the head is made of cardboard type stuff, buy a sheet of stuff from ebay and make your own. personally id be chasing the root cause and fixing that
                89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                • cscracker
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 131

                  #9
                  Yeah, the O-ring does all the sealing, no paper gasket or RTV necessary. If yours won't seal it must be in pretty bad shape. A new housing isn't too expensive (~$40-50 for both the housing and the cover) and chances are, your leaky one is also super crusty everywhere else.

                  Housing
                  11531730470
                  https://www.ecstuning.com/b-mtc-part...531730470~mtc/

                  Cover
                  11531265059
                  https://www.ecstuning.com/b-uro-part...531265059~uro/

                  Against the block, that side does need a gasket. If you replace the housing, you'll need a new one.
                  11531722692
                  https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/11531722692/

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                  • digger
                    R3V Elite
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 5912

                    #10
                    id by the genuine stuff for an extra $50 all up, MTC and URO are the worst brands around
                    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                    • Aleman
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 1583

                      #11
                      Better Fix for Thermostat Housing Leaks?

                      On my vert, I just replaced a bad thermostat and put in a new housing gasket. It leaked pretty bad, but I would say that I probably had some old RTV somewhere on the sealing surface. I went and put RTV on the seal and no more leaks.

                      My other E30 got a new thermostat 5 years ago, and I've put on about 6k miles since then. Coincidentally, that therm housing is now leaking for no reason other than age maybe. I guess I will know more once I open it up. How long should a gasket last? Seems like this could be one of the M20's weak points.

                      Thanks for all the advice so far guys. Good stuff here


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                      └┼┼┘ /// 1993 Black/Black Convertible (sold)
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