ForcedFirebird's m20 dyno thread.

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  • potatomash
    Wrencher
    • Nov 2014
    • 203

    #16
    Cool thread


    T U R B O - M 2 0 - B U I L D

    M U S C C O O

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    • LowR3V'in
      R3V Elite
      • Feb 2004
      • 4209

      #17
      Give use your most bad ass m20 dyno and what u did to it.

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      • 2mAn
        SeƱior Mod
        • Aug 2010
        • 20119

        #18
        Originally posted by LowR3V'in
        Give use your most bad ass m20 dyno and what u did to it.


        Or just give us more!!
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        • LowR3V'in
          R3V Elite
          • Feb 2004
          • 4209

          #19
          he's shy now

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          • ForcedFirebird
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2007
            • 8300

            #20
            Been a little backed up lately. :/

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            • hasa
              Wrencher
              • May 2013
              • 278

              #21
              Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
              Ironic you asked. If you look at the screen shots, they are in EEC.
              Ah, sorry... my bad. It seems that we have so many correction factors, hp standards, measurement styles (whp or transmission losses corrected) that it makes me crazy. Thanks for sharing these!

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              • ForcedFirebird
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2007
                • 8300

                #22
                Originally posted by hasa
                Ah, sorry... my bad. It seems that we have so many correction factors, hp standards, measurement styles (whp or transmission losses corrected) that it makes me crazy. Thanks for sharing these!
                No harm, no foul. HA

                With low power engines, it's not as much of a big deal. When changing correction factors on a ~150whp car only changes the numbers a few HP. Naturally when you get to higher HP, the differences are large since it's a percentage based formula.
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                • ForcedFirebird
                  R3V OG
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 8300

                  #23
                  Same car in post #3 with our head, 272 cam and RHD ITB.Check out the TQ at 2500 rpm, it's more than peak in the base lol.

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                  • ForcedFirebird
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 8300

                    #24
                    Updated post #2


                    Originally posted by MrBurgundy
                    Do us dirty and post up a 3.xL if you got any :p

                    Sorry, missed your post until editing post 2. If you notice, they are kinda in an order from stock-ish to built, so bear with me. I have not had a local 3.x built m20 to put on the dyno yet. Have a budget stroker using the eta crank/rods, -2mm block, B&B to .1gm, stock-ish head with just my flow tested valve job, and 272 cam that will be coming back for the tune once it's broken in a bit, but logistics has been keeping it delayed as he is over a half day drive from the shop. I also lost in the neighborhood of 20 cars when the dyno pc tower crashed - the same reason I now cloud them shortly after. :/
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                    • LowR3V'in
                      R3V Elite
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4209

                      #25
                      272 your favorite cam?

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                      • ForcedFirebird
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 8300

                        #26
                        Originally posted by LowR3V'in
                        272 your favorite cam?
                        Im just a pawn in this game, my man.
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                        • ForcedFirebird
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 8300

                          #27
                          Originally posted by LowR3V'in
                          272 your favorite cam?



                          Kidding aside. I base the cam on the compression. When you have less than 10:1, anything larger than a 272 puts the power band higher than the m20 head will make power.



                          Here's one of the lost dyno files, but realized we focused the camera at the dyno, woot


                          Stock 1988 seta engine with fresh rings, bearings and rebuilt head. Stock cam, eBay clone of a to4e/super60, spiked to 13psi, then held 12 stable. 524 TD manifold with a long adapter in between it and turbo to use a 38mm external gate. 3" DP, stock-ish exhaust with cat (yes, choking it), but he moved to Cali and wanted to be able to convert back to stock if needed.


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                          • earthwormjim
                            E30 Addict
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 434

                            #28
                            What causes the waviness in the curve? Is it from the restrictive exhaust?

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                            • ForcedFirebird
                              R3V OG
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 8300

                              #29
                              m20b25 with flat eta style pistons, 10psi stable, authentic Tubonetics Super 60, Bimmerheads head with dual pattern turbo cam, ebay tubo manifold, customer built.

                              We added Megasquirt, fixed up some piping an dyno tuned it.

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                              • ForcedFirebird
                                R3V OG
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 8300

                                #30
                                Originally posted by earthwormjim
                                What causes the waviness in the curve? Is it from the restrictive exhaust?



                                More than likely. I played with the tune and couldn't smooth it out. Have a feeling there was some kind of pressure oscillation going on.

                                EDIT: It also could have been in part due to the manual boost controller. 6psi spring, it would only make 13 in a spike, then fall to 12 with the controller wide open.
                                Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 05-27-2018, 06:12 PM.
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