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  • MB07
    Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 62

    #1

    Squeaky Belt from HELL

    I know this is had been covered a million times and everyone had had this issue at least once since they’ve owned their car but I have a squeaky belt I cannot for the life of me diagnose.

    The coolant hose that runs to the heater core popped spewing distilled water and rad cleaner (in the middle of a thurough coolant) everywhere. Hose was replaced and all fluids were cleaned up. My car has developed a VERY loud and annoying squeal.

    There are only 2 belts on this car, timing and alternator. Power steering and AC have been removed.
    The alternator belt is brand new, less than 20 miles.
    The water pump is supposedly less than 10,000 old (installed by previous owner)
    I have taken the belt off, cleaned it and roughed up the edges to ensure grip.
    The pulleys have been roughed up to ensure grip.
    CRC Belt Conditioner has been sprayed on to aid in grip.
    MFer still squeaks like a stuck banshee.

    Here is a video. Please beware. The squeak is terrible.
    2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
    1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
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  • Reichart12
    R3VLimited
    • Aug 2012
    • 2145

    #2
    If you went as far as to remove the belts to clean them, why not just replace them? Gets you 10k miles more of peace and both the belts are relatively cheap.

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    • MB07
      Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 62

      #3
      Originally posted by Reichart12
      If you went as far as to remove the belts to clean them, why not just replace them? Gets you 10k miles more of peace and both the belts are relatively cheap.
      I only pulled the alternator belt. I didn’t replace it because it’s 1. brand new and 2. it’s sounds like the water pump pulley might be the culprit.
      2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
      1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
      Instgram: @Ebola.30

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      • digger
        R3V Elite
        • Nov 2005
        • 5912

        #4
        Has it been tensioned properly?
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        • MB07
          Member
          • Jan 2018
          • 62

          #5
          Originally posted by digger
          Has it been tensioned properly?
          Yes it has.
          2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
          1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
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          • uturn
            E30 Modder
            • Dec 2010
            • 983

            #6
            Bad belt, bad alternator, bad water pump.
            Spin the alternator or check it for play to rule it out. Once you install a new belt you will know if you need a new water pump.

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            • MB07
              Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 62

              #7
              Originally posted by uturn
              Bad belt, bad alternator, bad water pump.
              Spin the alternator or check it for play to rule it out. Once you install a new belt you will know if you need a new water pump.
              I was afraid someone was going to say that. Water pumps are cheap but not so easy to replace. Alternators are east to replace but expensive-ish. Blast and damn.

              How do you test the alternator? Just give the pulley a wiggle? Ive tested it with a multimeter and it tested fine. Is it the bearing that goes bad?
              2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
              1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
              Instgram: @Ebola.30

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              • dsphil
                E30 Addict
                • Jan 2012
                • 495

                #8
                Maybe it not the belt. Try to run it without the fan belt and see if it still squeaks.
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                • audiquattrot
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • May 2008
                  • 3836

                  #9
                  spray a little WD-40 on areas you suspect it might be squealing from.....then rule out.

                  my guess is the tension needs to be adjusted + the belt needs replacement esp if coolant got all over it.
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                  • Kershaw
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 11822

                    #10
                    FCP euro has sent me the wrong alternator belt several times in a row. It's too skinny and therefore it doesn't sit in the pulley properly. It sits way too low and the tensioner bottoms out before the belt is actually really snug. If your belt is not flush with the top of the pulley, get a fatter universal belt of a close size. Which might be 29", I'm not recalling exactly.

                    I had one very annoying rallycross event where the belt would fly off halfway through the run and then it was me flying to the finish before the car overheated. Then I had to coast far enough away and put the belt back on a very hot motor. It sucked.
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                    • e30davie
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1788

                      #11
                      if i remember correctly the V belt is suppose to be 11mm wide, but most places just stock the 10mm?

                      I had same problem with suppliers around me. eventually i found an 11mm somewhere.

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                      • MB07
                        Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 62

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kershaw
                        FCP euro has sent me the wrong alternator belt several times in a row. It's too skinny and therefore it doesn't sit in the pulley properly. It sits way too low and the tensioner bottoms out before the belt is actually really snug. If your belt is not flush with the top of the pulley, get a fatter universal belt of a close size. Which might be 29", I'm not recalling exactly.

                        I had one very annoying rallycross event where the belt would fly off halfway through the run and then it was me flying to the finish before the car overheated. Then I had to coast far enough away and put the belt back on a very hot motor. It sucked.
                        Dang. I got my alt belt from FCP. Its a Contitech 10X965.
                        2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
                        1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
                        Instgram: @Ebola.30

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                        • MB07
                          Member
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 62

                          #13
                          Originally posted by audiquattrot
                          spray a little WD-40 on areas you suspect it might be squealing from.....then rule out.

                          my guess is the tension needs to be adjusted + the belt needs replacement esp if coolant got all over it.
                          Lubing up the water pump pulley is a good idea, I'll have to try that.
                          I took the belt off and cleaned it off and scuffed the edged to promote adhesion.
                          2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
                          1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
                          Instgram: @Ebola.30

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                          • MB07
                            Member
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 62

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dsphil
                            Maybe it not the belt. Try to run it without the fan belt and see if it still squeaks.
                            The belt that runs the fan, also runs the alternator. How will that work?
                            2009 BMW 328i xDrive (Daily/winter drift king)
                            1987 BMW 325i (Currently torn apart)
                            Instgram: @Ebola.30

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                            • E30-325iS
                              Advanced Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 191

                              #15
                              You wouldn't drive it like that, you'd run it just long enough to rule out the belt.
                              A few minutes won't hurt the car.

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