how much power can u get with the cheap stroker?

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  • OSM e30
    Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 55

    #1

    how much power can u get with the cheap stroker?

    i know that you can put the eta crank and rods from a 325e with the seta pistons from a 528e...and u get a compression ratio of 8.8 but i was wonder how much power gain will you get from that?
  • OSM e30
    Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 55

    #2
    has anyone done it? hows it run? is it a pretty good improvement?

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    • E30 Reaktionär
      Site Manager
      • Aug 2006
      • 14451

      #3
      But the stock eta compression is 9:1. Why do you want to lower it? Are you boosting it? Or are you putting it into a 2.5 block?

      1992 BMW 325iC
      1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
      1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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      • OSM e30
        Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 55

        #4
        Originally posted by E30 Reaktionär
        But the stock eta compression is 9:1. Why do you want to lower it? Are you boosting it? Or are you putting it into a 2.5 block?
        oh im sorry i have a 89 325i...so it has the 2.5 in it and i wanted to make it a stroker

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        • moreoff
          E30 Addict
          • Apr 2007
          • 516

          #5
          ive got a 2.7liter, not really all that powerful imo.

          im looking to get an s50 or m30
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          • erik325i
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jan 2005
            • 3567

            #6
            Originally posted by OSM e30
            put the eta crank and rods from a 325e with the seta pistons
            Using an eta crank, super eta pistons, and an I head, you are basically building a super eta motor, so I would imaging the horsepower would be exactly the same as a super eta... :roll:

            -Erik

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            • OSM e30
              Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 55

              #7
              Originally posted by erik325i
              Using an eta crank, super eta pistons, and an I head, you are basically building a super eta motor, so I would imaging the horsepower would be exactly the same as a super eta... :roll:

              -Erik
              what car was the super eta motor in?

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              • Jbpka06
                E30 Addict
                • Feb 2006
                • 551

                #8
                '88 325

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                • StereoInstaller1
                  GAS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 22679

                  #9
                  Originally posted by erik325i
                  Using an eta crank, super eta pistons, and an I head, you are basically building a super eta motor, so I would imaging the horsepower would be exactly the same as a super eta... :roll:

                  -Erik
                  Except for "i" cam, springs, intake, TB, ECU, etc.

                  I have heard that the ETA/M20B23 combo would do 180 RWHP, so I expect a SETA/i should do about there too.

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                  • JGood
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 7959

                    #10
                    Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                    Except for "i" cam, springs, intake, TB, ECU, etc.

                    I have heard that the ETA/M20B23 combo would do 180 RWHP, so I expect a SETA/i should do about there too.

                    Luke
                    No way. Jordan's fully built 2.8 only put down 192rwhp with a good piggyback tune. If that eta/2.3 combo puts down 160rwhp I'd be impressed. 180hp maybe, not 180rwhp.

                    A SETA/i combo is simply a m20b25 with a little bit longer stroke. If that little extra stroke gives someone 30whp I'd be really really impressed. I think BMW would have made it that way from the factory if that was the case. People with fully built 3.0 strokers aren't even puting down that much. The stroke/bore of the m20 isn't the bottleneck.
                    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
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                    • StereoInstaller1
                      GAS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 22679

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JGood
                      No way. Jordan's fully built 2.8 only put down 192rwhp with a good piggyback tune. If that eta/2.3 combo puts down 160rwhp I'd be impressed. 180hp maybe, not 180rwhp.
                      Agreed and agreed. Left stock, no chance of 180RWHP.

                      I think I might have intended to put 180Bhp.

                      I just wonder what headers, full exhaust and MS&S would do for one...

                      Luke

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                      • digger
                        R3V Elite
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 5912

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JGood
                        People with fully built 3.0 strokers aren't even puting down that much.
                        A fully built ~3L stroker should make >200whp on a dynojet otherwise its not fully built. If it wasn't $150 for a few power runs i'd show you....lol. There is nothing special on Jordans car that is different to how anyone builds an engine it simply uses techniques that have been longproven. There are certain ingredients that make good power it is really pretty simple just not that cheap.

                        - Displacement Stroke/Bore
                        - Cam 270+
                        - Light Port work
                        - High Compression atleast 10:1
                        - Longtube headers (good ones BTB, BAV, STAHL, SS not el cheapo ones)
                        - free flowing exhaust
                        - half decent tune (custom motronic chip is fine for NA)
                        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

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                        • MrK
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 709

                          #13
                          @JGOOD: BMW actually DID make a 2.7 stroker from the factory, and this engine was offered along with the full MtechII kit in some countries. We have some in Lebanon. They're rated at 185hp as opposed to the 2.5s which are 171hp here. So that's a good indication of how much power you can expect from a 'stock' 2.7i.
                          This is your M20 on steroids:

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                          • rs4pro3
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 5808

                            #14
                            Ya I estimate my budget 2.7 has about 180-190 crank hp. It feels almost the same power wise as my m30 swapped car.
                            85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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                            • StereoInstaller1
                              GAS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 22679

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrK
                              @JGOOD: BMW actually DID make a 2.7 stroker from the factory, and this engine was offered along with the full MtechII kit in some countries. We have some in Lebanon. They're rated at 185hp as opposed to the 2.5s which are 171hp here. So that's a good indication of how much power you can expect from a 'stock' 2.7i.
                              Do you think you could find a Lebanese chip for the 2.7? Maybe a set of pistons, to see if they are different than the "i" piston?

                              Luke

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