Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

pillaged the hoard

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    pillaged the hoard

    Well finally got around to rummaging the hoarding pile and throwing something together. The R&R took place in the driveway cause I gots no room in the garage from the hoarding issue...

    ETA block
    84mm B25 pistons cut down for crank clearance
    84mm large diameter crank (uncut)
    130mm stock rods
    ARP rod bolts
    ARP main bolts
    Raceware head bolts
    MLS headgasket
    IE crank scraper
    oil baffle
    lightened flywheel
    spec2 cover stock disk
    stock head and cam
    vernier cam gear

    Tried to fix the sideways pics (rotated and re-upload didn't help)

    All pics
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ag...sehMyoMee3rDzk

    Picked up the economy size purple 8^)


    Block cleaned and ready to prep


    Whetstone to clean all machined flat surfaces



    Lets see how the MLS will like the RA finish


    Pull the plug and clean the galley




    Tap the hole keepin' it square



    And then plug it


    Thread chasers for all the holes


    Lets cut up some perfectly good pistons cause I couldn't fit the crank on the lathe 8^)



    Reaming the pin holes to get rid of the clip ridge


    Bead hone for cylinder finish



    Sorting and gathering up the parts


    Using ARP bolts for mains


    The only ring compressor for me


    Torquing the ARPs


    Lots of massaging for a B25 scraper to fit with an uncut 84mm crank plus holes for the ARPs


    Hand cut baffle from the template floating around


    Typical lightened flywheel for this build


    Out with the old


    In with the new


    Gettin' there


    Found a torque multiplier to make this job much easier and proper torque (will be imperative with future mods)


    Topped it off with a 1.25mm short stack of MLS(cause uncut block) and a stock head... for now
    Last edited by whodwho; 11-05-2019, 07:20 AM.
    My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
    4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

    #2
    good work, no f**king around
    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

    Comment


      #3
      Nice! We need to do something about that stock head. ;)

      I have run MLS shims without issue, but I coated both sides of each layer with copper spray, though (Viton wasn't on the layers I needed).

      Out of curiosity, why do people like to tap/plug thew galleys, rather than push a 12mm plug back in?
      john@m20guru.com
      Links:
      Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

      Comment


        #4
        easier to remove and reuse i guess.
        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

        Comment


          #5
          Originally posted by digger View Post
          good work, no f**king around
          Thank you, this one was to get routines, tools, sealants, etc together for the next couple coming up


          Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
          Nice! We need to do something about that stock head. ;)

          I have run MLS shims without issue, but I coated both sides of each layer with copper spray, though (Viton wasn't on the layers I needed).

          Out of curiosity, why do people like to tap/plug thew galleys, rather than push a 12mm plug back in?
          I was hoping you hadn't given up on me!! 8^(

          I thought it needed the embossed bead to compress a seal correctly?

          Really I don't know if many(Any?) do, that is an old school habit from my built VW motor days and they were known for sneezing plugs. Probably not an issue with iron blocks{?} but I have heard of Chevy guys threading them as well so I am not that crazy! 8^)

          My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
          4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by whodwho View Post
            I was hoping you hadn't given up on me!! 8^(

            I thought it needed the embossed bead to compress a seal correctly?

            Really I don't know if many(Any?) do, that is an old school habit from my built VW motor days and they were known for sneezing plugs. Probably not an issue with iron blocks{?} but I have heard of Chevy guys threading them as well so I am not that crazy! 8^)
            Do you still have the same cell #? You went off the radar for, dunno, couple years :P

            There's an AMC core still sitting here with your name on it, just need to know what valves you went with.

            "Freeze" plugs are really core plugs where the molds had to be released when casting, or where tooling had to reach inside to the casting core (if they were strictly for "freezing", they wouldn't be in the oil galleys :P). Welsh/core plugs don't require any kind of sealant, or beading, the cap is dome-shaped and made of springy material, so that there's always tension on the outer edge ring. The factory installs them dry, but I use a little green LocTite on before mashing them in.

            My VW days are a little more ancient - we didn't even have coolant in ours!

            john@m20guru.com
            Links:
            Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

            Comment


              #7
              i think he mean sneeze as in the oil pressure ejected them? rather then freeze
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

              Comment


                #8
                Correct sneeze not freeze 8^)

                So it was common to put high volume oil pumps in 'air' cooled VWs running coolers and filters and circulate lots of oil for cooling. I think it would overwhelm the relief valve when cold and would get well over 100 psi oil pressure and push out the plugs, I never lost a plug but did expand a few oil filters in my time.

                I had a built 2016(78.4 Okrasa forged counter weighted x 90.5 Cima) with a RayJay B40 turbo w/MBC and 45mm DCOE side draft hanging off the side of it, this was back when boost was still pretty much uncharted waters.

                We also were running a pink VW fiberglass buggy with a turbo 1835 at the SoCal VW drags (and streets) back then if anyone was into that scene 8^)
                Last edited by whodwho; 10-24-2019, 09:20 AM.
                My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
                4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

                Comment


                  #9
                  Strange. I wouldn't think 100psi could push one out - 12mm cap @ 100psi is only something like 45 actually pounds of force, and I know how much effort it takes to get them in. Couple of my racing e30 buddies deleted the oil pressure relief valve in their m20's they easily see 90-100 psi on a cold start (we all use LM 10w60 oil) and haven't seen one "sneeze" out yet.

                  I had 2 Beetles. '71 SB (last year with flat windshield), painted purple with frenched in teardrop taillights (bought it that way), stock motor - and then a 70 standard Beetle, painted teal with white window rubber, louvered running boards, Porsche 14" wheels, balanced 1600, smoothest flat 4 I have ever driven. Thinking about it just aged me, that was ~25yr ago. o.0
                  john@m20guru.com
                  Links:
                  Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

                  Comment


                    #10
                    I only had a 100psi gauge so why it was only a "well over" statement, could of easily been twice that.

                    I was into the VW scene before working at the BMW dealer, I had ~20 that I have owned and flipped. my first car was a 67 Karmann Ghia and have had beetles, squarebacks, buses, rabbits, scirocco. My favorite was probably my 67 bus with a 1776 with dual 44 Webers and I had a couple Veeps one had the turbo motor in it for a while.
                    My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
                    4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

                    Comment


                      #11
                      I had a 23 window 65 VW van dlx that I bought from a dealer after they pulled the engine and the customer traded it in. Fortunately I had bought a 1500N Porsche engine in boxes which boosted the hp 25%...from 32 to 40 :)

                      picked it up in time to head to Woodstock never to return. We now return control of your tv to you
                      Deck Lid and soft top Shocks on hand

                      Seat shocks on hand for immediate shipment
                      https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                      Alice the Time Capsule
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                      87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
                        I had a 23 window 65 VW van dlx that I bought from a dealer after they pulled the engine and the customer traded it in. Fortunately I had bought a 1500N Porsche engine in boxes which boosted the hp 25%...from 32 to 40 :)

                        picked it up in time to head to Woodstock never to return. We now return control of your tv to you
                        Nice! love to have one of those, you happen to keep up with what those go for now
                        My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
                        4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

                        Comment


                          #13
                          I do, and yeah...

                          When we were in Daytona racing the e30 in a 14hr endurance race last year, there happened to be an air cooled VW show/meet the same Sunday. I would gather there was about 1k cars, huge park. Didn't plan on going, but a local friend up there told us about it so we just stopped in on a whim. Aside form a 67 that we fixed up about 4yr ago, lost touch with the air cooled community in early 00's. There was a beautiful 23 window with the Safari vented windshields there, totally was drooling over it!

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/BhlDRbXls5_/

                          My buddy had a camper bus when I had the beetles. We went and hit up a few Phish shows in it. Riding 6 deep in a stock '70 camper, we were lucky to hit 60mph lol. Later that year he did a 6mo tour with Phish, he wasn't overly handy and had an engine problem between concerts, so he just left it on the side of the highway and hitched a ride for the rest of the trip. I was furious - told him we could easily change the engine if needed right on the side of the road using minimal tools.

                          There's a beetle that frequents our racing tour. There's a rule that we can't be in the hot pit more than 30min for repairs as to not congest other teams from fuelling. Every single race they blow a motor, and have a system down where they can swap it in about 14min.
                          john@m20guru.com
                          Links:
                          Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

                          Comment


                            #14
                            Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
                            There's a beetle that frequents our racing tour. There's a rule that we can't be in the hot pit more than 30min for repairs as to not congest other teams from fuelling. Every single race they blow a motor, and have a system down where they can swap it in about 14min.
                            thats awesome.
                            Those air cooled rear engine cars can be swapped pretty fast. When i worked in an air cooled porsche shop we could get a motor out in 12 minutes, not swapped in 14 but still pretty impressive I think
                            1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Come on now, world record R&R is 1:04, you should be able to do it around 2 mins!! 8^)

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKF6dcKjLJo

                              Apparently a Ford Escort is even easier with the tranny(makes you wonder on the axles...) and a few seconds less @ 0:42

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=te48ucoEvFI

                              At the old bug-in shows they used to have competitions and it was typically a little under 3 mins if I remember for a two man team
                              My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
                              4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X