'89 325i + m30 + 4hp22 build

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  • CorvallisBMW
    Long Schlong Longhammer
    • Feb 2005
    • 13039

    #16
    Any updates on this?

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    • RedEye669
      Noobie
      • Nov 2011
      • 5

      #17
      Interesting. I've made zero progress on my swap because I'm having a hell of a time finding a manual tranny to fit an M30 (Saskatchewan not exactly being a Mecca of vintage BMW enthusiasts). I'd read that an M30 auto just wouldn't fit so I hadn't even considered it, but if this project works out I might just swap the auto in so I can enjoy the M30 while I keep looking for a 5-speed. Both my 325i and the donor e34 are autos.

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      • CorvallisBMW
        Long Schlong Longhammer
        • Feb 2005
        • 13039

        #18
        Anything can fit with enough use of a sledgehammer :)

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        • n3nyongmini
          E30 Addict
          • Jun 2006
          • 593

          #19
          Updates above. I lost my job right before Thanksgiving and have been a bit occupied trying to get re-employed.
          HE>i
          89 335i m30 power, 4hp22 delivery

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          • n3nyongmini
            E30 Addict
            • Jun 2006
            • 593

            #20
            OK moving along. Exhaust system is made up of e23 manifolds, e30m20 downpipes and a few odds-n-ends to get from the downpipes to the remainder of the front cat section.

            Here's where I cut the front section:

            HE>i
            89 335i m30 power, 4hp22 delivery

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            • n3nyongmini
              E30 Addict
              • Jun 2006
              • 593

              #21
              Before getting the exhaust hooked up, I noticed that the rack-to-oil pan clearance was tight. Perhaps only a mm or two:


              I slipped some large nylon spacers between the mount arms and the stock m20 motor mounts. The spacers are really just large nylon washers about 3mm thick, and did the trick. I tried 6mm spacers, but I didn't have enough thread on the motor mount stud (I didn't feel like turning them over - that might have worked, but I like the raised " button" on the bottom).

              With the additional 3mm; I am guessing the rubber in the mounts will settle over time and the 6mm spacers may come in handy:
              HE>i
              89 335i m30 power, 4hp22 delivery

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              • travish325
                Banned
                • Jun 2012
                • 1151

                #22
                Why not just use the m20 harness? Much easier than rewiring the m30 one.

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                • n3nyongmini
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 593

                  #23
                  Originally posted by travish325
                  Why not just use the m20 harness? Much easier than rewiring the m30 one.
                  Well, in my haste to liquidate the remains of the m20, I wasn't thinking and sold the injector harness with the rest of the parts, so I really only had half an m20 harness.

                  It seemed to be about the same amount of work either way. Maybe not.
                  HE>i
                  89 335i m30 power, 4hp22 delivery

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                  • travish325
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 1151

                    #24
                    I think only a few wires need extended on the m20 harness all the plug ins are the same though. Most swaps Ive seen the m20 harness is used. Either way cool project!

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                    • n3nyongmini
                      E30 Addict
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 593

                      #25
                      Here are the two m20 downpipes with added lengths. The two sections are "reversed" from the original placement on the m20, where I used the short stubby section with the flex to get clear of the firewall. I brazed an o2 sensor bung onto the straight section since I cut out the portion that had it originally. I am thinking there is a way to use it. "Next Time". The o2 will only be reading from the front 3 cylinders, but I don't think that's really going to be a big deal.


                      Oh I forgot to mention: I used the e23 manifolds since the e34 ones were too close to the mount arm. That was before I picked up a welder, so I'll be looking for a way to use the larger e34 manifolds and downpipes "Next Time"..
                      HE>i
                      89 335i m30 power, 4hp22 delivery

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                      • n3nyongmini
                        E30 Addict
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 593

                        #26
                        Just about ready to fire it up....I had to fab a bracket for the kickdown cable.

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                        HE>i
                        89 335i m30 power, 4hp22 delivery

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                        • e30trooper
                          R3V OG
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 11576

                          #27
                          Very nice!

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                          • G-Man the Visionary
                            E30 Addict
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 543

                            #28
                            Hi, thanks for doing this swap, it's the only one i can find... I'm staring mine now as well... '89 325i vert auto (dead m20)... found a running 735il (b35) and am getting the complete engine/ ecu and bell housing from it... ebay mounts from england are ordered... stahl headers for a 635 already in the garage and crossing my fingers that they fit without mods...

                            The only questions I have are...
                            -are there different models of bell housing from the m30?
                            -will the m20 harness work out ok with everything (other than extending injector wires)?
                            -any electronic hookups i need to know about on bell housing that could cause a problem?
                            -any other hick ups i should know about?

                            Other than those things, it seems like a plug n play kind of deal, right?
                            Thanks,
                            David
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                            Streetable poly mounts, trans mounts are here!
                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...ght=streetable
                            '94 318i
                            '07 335i
                            '11 X5
                            '89 325ic m30b35

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                            • G-Man the Visionary
                              E30 Addict
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 543

                              #29
                              oh, i forgot... what have you done with the cooling system?
                              thanks again
                              sigpic
                              Streetable poly mounts, trans mounts are here!
                              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...ght=streetable
                              '94 318i
                              '07 335i
                              '11 X5
                              '89 325ic m30b35

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                              • Smash9002
                                Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 96

                                #30
                                Awesome swap! I have dreamed before about doing somthing similar. I read somewhere, maybe even in this thread, that someone offers high-stall speed torque converters for m30's. The idea of a "muscle car" e30 build with an m30 backed by an auto with a high-stall converter is pretty tempting!

                                Have fun!
                                -Doug

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