S50 camshaft tray in M42

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  • eur04lif3
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2009
    • 756

    #1

    S50 camshaft tray in M42

    Has anyone done this modification to their m42?

    Last edited by eur04lif3; 01-28-2014, 08:22 PM.
  • TobyB
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2011
    • 5168

    #2
    No. Are you planning on spinning to 8500? Got E36 valves already?

    Chit, he's now using a friction saw to cut aluminum... this should be good!

    Oooh, and now he's belt- sanded the mating surface!

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    • eur04lif3
      Mod Crazy
      • Jan 2009
      • 756

      #3
      I'm not suggesting to use his manufacturing processes. What i am interested is in the concept of reducing the diameter to install smaller lifters to achieve a higher reving engine.
      After reading some online, you could also sleeve some bronze bushing.

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      • wazzu70
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jan 2005
        • 1143

        #4
        You can also upgrade to the later E36 lifters that are the same diameter but lighter, or the VW lifters. Both of these are drop in replacements (not to be confused with the later E36 smaller diameter lifters).

        When you have a cam lobe to lifter direct contact, having the biggest diameter lifter possible is advantageous. With a smaller surface the lifters tend to rock in the bores more.

        Just my thoughts on the matter.
        -Nick

        M42 on VEMS

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        • eur04lif3
          Mod Crazy
          • Jan 2009
          • 756

          #5
          Nick, when does one know that the lifters need replacing?

          I'm getting loud ticking sounds, especially from 3 & 4th cylinder, and i'm thinking it could be my lifters.



          PS. i'm liking your VEMS set up, i'm thinking of doing it this summer as well.
          Do you have any information of it anywhere on the web?

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          • Dj Buttchug
            R3V OG
            • Jun 2010
            • 7633

            #6
            Originally posted by wazzu70
            You can also upgrade to the later E36 lifters that are the same diameter but lighter, or the VW lifters. Both of these are drop in replacements (not to be confused with the later E36 smaller diameter lifters).

            When you have a cam lobe to lifter direct contact, having the biggest diameter lifter possible is advantageous. With a smaller surface the lifters tend to rock in the bores more.

            Just my thoughts on the matter.

            this. as stated before the lighter same bore size lifter is the better option imo

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            • bmwman91
              No R3VLimiter
              • Oct 2004
              • 3128

              #7
              Yeah, at the moment I am convinced that you want to stick with the stock 35mm diameter lifters. I know that some of the later M/S5x engines used lighter 35mm lifters with smaller fluid reservoirs. That's what MM put in my engine, so they could probably tell you what the lightest 35mm ones are.

              As wazzu mentioned, smaller ones are more prone to rocking. Additionally, the cam lobe is more likely to run up/over the edge of the lifter, and you had darn well better be running a very high quality synthetic oil or you will eat the noses off of the lobes.

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              • wazzu70
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Jan 2005
                • 1143

                #8
                Originally posted by eur04lif3
                Nick, when does one know that the lifters need replacing?

                I'm getting loud ticking sounds, especially from 3 & 4th cylinder, and i'm thinking it could be my lifters.



                PS. i'm liking your VEMS set up, i'm thinking of doing it this summer as well.
                Do you have any information of it anywhere on the web?
                You know, I'm not sure when is really best to replace them. When they make noise, that definitely could be the issue as long as you are getting proper oiling.

                If it was from the front of the engine I would think possibly the chain tensioner for the timing chain, but since its in the back lifters make the most sense.


                Thanks on the VEMS setup. I don't really have anywhere all the information is complied, but I'm more than happy to answer any questions.

                In short I used the factory engine harness and cut off the Motronic connector and put the correct pins to the correct place in the VEMS connectors. I think thats the easiest way to do the wiring.

                I'm hesitating on showing my configuration until I know 100% its correct. Right now I'm about 98% :)
                -Nick

                M42 on VEMS

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