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  • Panici
    Moderator
    • Dec 2009
    • 2312

    #1

    How does this Getrag 260 look?

    Hey guys.

    Just pulled the transmission off my parts car ('86 325e, 320k KM) after a few days of tough work by myself. Planning on swapping it into my Auto '87 325is.

    This is the first transmission I've ever pulled, and thus the first clutch I've seen first hand. Here's what I've found so far. Planning on pulling the clutch, flywheel and master cyl next week when I have some time. (I'll take pictures of them when I do)

    It looks like an inspection hole was drilled into the bellhousing, and never plugged. Therefore everything in there is somewhat rusty. Is this a really bad thing?

    The car did run and drive previous to this. The trans felt good, I even gave it a test launch and the clutch held the mighty (lol) ETA power with no issue (left a couple of skids on the pavement)


    Here's my question.
    I want to know what else I should be replacing here while everything is apart. (Since pulling the tranny again is a lot of work).
    So far I plan to replace:
    • Trans crossmember (used, in good shape)
    • Trans mount bushings
    • Pressure plate bolts
    • Flywheel bolts
    • Slave cyl
    • Input shaft seal
    • Output shaft seal



    Here's the pics.













    '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

    '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i
  • Dj Buttchug
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2010
    • 7632

    #2
    1. power was the shit out of it.
    2. new input/output shaft seals
    3. new fluid
    4. new throwout and arm spring

    do this and you got a good trans.

    Clutch im sure is fine but why not change it out while your in there

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    • efficient
      No R3VLimiter
      • Feb 2012
      • 3312

      #3
      id also would add a new coat of sealant on the little cover on the top(held on by 2 10mm bolts) its on the side were the little vent is at but at the end of the trans.

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      • Panici
        Moderator
        • Dec 2009
        • 2312

        #4
        Originally posted by Dj Buttchug
        4. new throwout and arm spring
        Why a new throwout bearing and arm spring?
        What is wrong with reusing the existing stuff?

        '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

        '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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        • rmdashrf
          Wrencher
          • Feb 2014
          • 207

          #5
          In my experience with BMWs, the TOB is the first thing to go in a clutch. It holds all the weight back from the pressure plate when you have the clutch in.

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          • Panici
            Moderator
            • Dec 2009
            • 2312

            #6
            Originally posted by rmdashrf
            In my experience with BMWs, the TOB is the first thing to go in a clutch. It holds all the weight back from the pressure plate when you have the clutch in.
            So even though the clutch is good, it's smart to replace the TOB and spring, as they fail first?

            '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

            '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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            • Panici
              Moderator
              • Dec 2009
              • 2312

              #7
              Here's what I've got.

              Anything I'm missing?

              (Should I be getting a pilot bearing + felt + caps?)
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              Last edited by Panici; 07-02-2014, 02:24 PM.

              '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

              '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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              • rmdashrf
                Wrencher
                • Feb 2014
                • 207

                #8
                Originally posted by Panici
                So even though the clutch is good, it's smart to replace the TOB and spring, as they fail first?
                Yeah, at the very least. A dead TOB was always the reason I was doing a clutch.

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                • Panici
                  Moderator
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 2312

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rmdashrf
                  Yeah, at the very least. A dead TOB was always the reason I was doing a clutch.
                  Ok, i'll get a new TOB then.



                  What about a pilot bearing?
                  Should I be getting a pilot bearing + felt + caps?

                  '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

                  '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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                  • Panici
                    Moderator
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2312

                    #10
                    Bump.

                    Should I be getting a pilot bearing + felt + caps?

                    I've never had a manual trans apart before, so excuse me if this is an obvious question!

                    '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

                    '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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                    • rmdashrf
                      Wrencher
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 207

                      #11
                      Clutch jobs are annoying and most times it's a, once you're in there, do everything kind of deal. You don't want to drop it again because you didn't replace one stupid part. Replace as much of it as you can.

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                      • Tom.
                        Advanced Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 121

                        #12
                        I would replace the shift shaft seal too.
                        I also found this thread when I was deciding which trans seals to buy.

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                        • Panici
                          Moderator
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 2312

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tom.
                          I would replace the shift shaft seal too.
                          I also found this thread when I was deciding which trans seals to buy.
                          Thanks for the link. I'll double check before I order that I have the good stuff!

                          '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

                          '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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                          • Panici
                            Moderator
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2312

                            #14
                            Got the flywheel and clutch off today. Take a look at these pictures and tell me if anything is off.

                            As I said before, I've never had a clutch/flywheel apart before, so I don't know what to look for. Please point out what you may think is obvious.

                            The only things that strike me as "off" are:
                            1. Bent/broken tips of the fingers on the pressure plate.
                            2. Worn/shiny areas of (TOB?) arm.


                            Assuming the above two points are not issues, I plan to use all the parts that you see. As I said before, let me know of anything I've missed/am ignorant of.


                            Thank guys!























                            '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

                            '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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                            • SpecM
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4531

                              #15
                              The clutch disk looks "ok", but the TOB and PP are rusty and show obvious wear. Replace all three (normally replaced as a kit anyway).
                              The release fork looks iffy, I would replace it with new along with the arm spring and pivot bushing.
                              New slave cylinder and hose, obviously.
                              You NEED a new pilot bearing, as automatic vehicles do not have them. It presses into the end of the crankshaft.
                              Take the flywheel to a competent local machine shop to be resurfaced.

                              Do it right or do it twice ;)
                              1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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