*Updated & only kinda shitty now!* The definitive 5.0/302 swap guide

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  • AWDBOB
    R3V Elite
    • Aug 2013
    • 4369

    #121
    Originally posted by eurotrash
    #1 rule for this swap. Dont buy a house. Your wife will need a new laundry room and master bath and youll nvr have cash for your car

    Feel free to crowd fund me an explorer 5.0 and a world class t5
    You had me at 'wife'. Mo money mo problems.

    I just bought 4 parts cars that are all paying for my build.

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    • e30_302
      E30 Addict
      • Sep 2013
      • 453

      #122
      Originally posted by danval
      If you guys are running manual brakes (no booster) have you thought of changing thhe leverage point on the pedal? My friend is doing it and personally, i havnt seen how easy it is but it sounds like a good idea. Also, i asked in the general tech section, but apparently everyone ignored me. I couldnt find a DIY section dedicated to the front mounted booster/mc. Anybody has some info or links on that? Im close to start my 5.0 swap and im trying to get all the knowledge i can. So far, this thread has tons of info. Pretty cool by the way.also, why doesnt the stock e30 clutch doesnt work with the T5 slave? Thanks in advance
      Yes you need to change the pivot point on the pedal for increased leverage. The Massive booster delete kit spells it out and has the necessary hardware. The T5 is cable operated, need to convert to add a hydro slave if you want to stay hydraulic. Not hard, there's a kit for that too.
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      • jalopi
        Banned
        • Aug 2010
        • 2370

        #123
        apparently the e30 stock master won't push enough fluid to move the slaves that work with the T5

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        • Stvstr
          Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 82

          #124
          I think this is detailed in my build thread as well, but I used a Dorman H38117 slave that is for an 80's Nissan pickup. It looks almost exactly like the Nissan 280ZX slave others have used but the inlet and bleeder are easier to access. Because of the tight trans tunnel I mounted it tight to the T5 and drilled a new hole in the clutch fork closer in to the T5. I am using the e30 master and it works great so far.

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          • e30_302
            E30 Addict
            • Sep 2013
            • 453

            #125
            Originally posted by jalopi
            apparently the e30 stock master won't push enough fluid to move the slaves that work with the T5
            Mine works perfectly with this kit.
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            • grant_jr
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 62

              #126
              Originally posted by e30_302
              Mine works perfectly with this kit.
              What bell housing are you running with your t5?

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              • jalopi
                Banned
                • Aug 2010
                • 2370

                #127
                Originally posted by e30_302
                Mine works perfectly with this kit.
                holy fuck, seriously? goddamnit.... oh well, live and learn I guess, would've loved to keep my stock pedal :/

                is your pedal stiff though? I've got a ACT clutch kit rated to 450ish or something wheel torque and my clutch pedal effort is stock honda level.


                As far as bellhousings go you've gotta get the correct one for your transmission. If you can source a t5 from a 94-95 mustang the shifter will line up in the existing hole better. However, the input shaft is about 1" longer than the t5's out of the fox mustangs, so you've gotta get a bellhousing for a 94-95 while you're at it.

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                • e30_302
                  E30 Addict
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 453

                  #128
                  I'm using the bell housing from a Fox body. Pedal effort is light, Honda level seems about right. Definitely lighter than my Jetta. Not sure what clutch/pressure plate I have to be honest, I got them with the trans.
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                  • grant_jr
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 62

                    #129
                    Cool that's a lot of gold, especially with the trans tunnel hole. Clutches are whatever pretty straight forward. What about drive shaft set up. I've read to save our e30 shaft and grab the yoke for the t5 but I've read we can use the mustang shaft with a diff flange for our med case. Just want a better understanding. Build thread soon. :)

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                    • jalopi
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2370

                      #130
                      Get a driveshaft made from scratch. Including parts I had to buy online it was about $400 total for a custom shaft. I bought a ford racing (or whatever you want) t5 yoke and a diff flange from here:

                      Why You Might Need One. When doing a V8 swap into a BMW, the BMW U-joint is non-serviceable and requires special machining to replace. Stealth Conversion’s heavy-duty BMW driveshaft conversion flange has the same bolt pattern and pilot dimensions as the stock BMW driveshaft flange, but it uses the road-tested Dana 1310

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                      • grant_jr
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 62

                        #131
                        Not bad, thanks.

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                        • eurotrash
                          Mod Crazy
                          • May 2007
                          • 768

                          #132
                          Cars curently living life somewhere in oregon but we decided to celebrate the 4th last year proper.

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                          • e30_302
                            E30 Addict
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 453

                            #133
                            I got a Ford aluminum driveshaft from cop car off eBay for $100, had it shortened for $60. Super light. eBay yoke for cheap, two u-joints, plus the flange from jagsthatrun. Probably $300 total.
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                            • AWDBOB
                              R3V Elite
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 4369

                              #134
                              Question:

                              Currently planning the suspension/braking system of the car, and was wondering if any of you are running 5 lug brakes (whether they be M3, 330i, etc). Will this be an issue when running manual brakes? What size master cylinder would be ideal?
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                              • jalopi
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2370

                                #135
                                I'm doing 330i brakes - won't be an issue, in fact you'll want them after doing the manual swap. Not sure what master to use yet (based off of pedal travel) so I'll post when I find out for myself.

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