noob prepping for an e30 ls swap...

[z28]

Does the canton oil pan hang lower than the crossmember?

[DividedBeing]

Does the canton oil pan hang lower than the crossmember?

Sikky's site says 5" from the block to he bottom of their pan. The Canton pan is 6". It's going to depend on how my motor sits with the mounts when they get here mostly.

You can get an idea from Project Snow White on here. Looks like it's hanging down a bit, but if it is, it's only 1" more than the Sikky Pan would.
None of the pictures of the pan in his build are great angles, but you can get an idea from seeing all of them together.
Another thing to keep in mind here is that his motor's sitting a lot lower than standard mounts due to his mounting solution.
I saw him putting a truck intake on that thing and was like "Wait a sec...."

[DividedBeing]

Also, from what I understand, Garagistic used to sell the Canton pan as their swap solution.

[justinpirie]

FYI the CD009 doesn’t fit with a V8 in an e30 without sticking 2” below or adding 2” to the tunnel. I’m adding the 2” in mine, but it’s a pure race car with no interior. ♂️ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[The Dark Side of Will]

Those aren't gusseted in the right direction to deal with engine torque.

[DividedBeing]

Those aren't gusseted in the right direction to deal with engine torque.

The guy who builds them has been running them for years in his ride, and if Garrett's will hold, then these will hold.

[DividedBeing]

FYI the CD009 doesn’t fit with a V8 in an e30 without sticking 2” below or adding 2” to the tunnel. I’m adding the 2” in mine, but it’s a pure race car with no interior. ♂️ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm pretty sure the BFH will get me most of the way there. This guy has a CD009 mated to a 2JZ in his E30. he did a little cutting, but there's not any extreme tunnel modding going on. The only thing I don't like is how far back his shifter is sitting.

[The Dark Side of Will]

The guy who builds them has been running them for years in his ride, and if Garrett's will hold, then these will hold.

So? That's a sample size of... 5? 10?

[DividedBeing]

So? That's a sample size of... 5? 10?

5 years of clutch kicks and drifting on the builder's mounts without gussets is enough of a sample size for me. Do you have any idea the amount of stress a clutch kick and drifting in general puts on the drivetrain?
The entire point of a clutch kick is to put a ton of shock into your drivetrain to spin the tires.

Many people haphazardly fab up shit motor mounts in their back yard that hold up well, man. It's really not rocket science.

Regardless, this guy has a great reputation in the swap community -- if you want to run polls, head over to the BMW LS Swap group on Facebook and ask them how many of their mounts have grenaded (none).
I'm 100% confident if they ever broke (they won't), he'd send me a brand new set built however I wanted them.

[mutty]

Keep pushing guys. Hope to join the ls swap e30 crowd one day. Need to clean up this lq9 short block and slap some milled 243's on it.

[z28]

Sikky's site says 5" from the block to he bottom of their pan. The Canton pan is 6". It's going to depend on how my motor sits with the mounts when they get here mostly.

You can get an idea from Project Snow White on here. Looks like it's hanging down a bit, but if it is, it's only 1" more than the Sikky Pan would.
None of the pictures of the pan in his build are great angles, but you can get an idea from seeing all of them together.
Another thing to keep in mind here is that his motor's sitting a lot lower than standard mounts due to his mounting solution.
I saw him putting a truck intake on that thing and was like "Wait a sec...."

Nice! there is a big difference in price from the canton to sikky oil pan.

[DividedBeing]

Nice! there is a big difference in price from the canton to sikky oil pan.

So the breakdown goes:

Oil Pan: $359
Dipstick $28
Gasket: $28
Oil Pickup $35
Stud Kit: $13
Filter Relocation Block: $62
Filter Relocation Kit: $75

Comes out to $600. Everything purchased from Ebay except the Gasket that I picked up from Summit.

So to get the same setup from Sikky, it comes out to $971 for me. And depending on the state you live in, they'll charge you tax on top of that. It was showing as $55 for tax before I put in my shipping info.

The only thing I regret is not being fancy and getting the gold colored pan. Probably going to cover it with a skid plate anyway.

[NORBY]

Same kind of performance no unless you are running a turbo or supercharger. But at the end of the day if I could go back in time I'm not sure I would do an ls swap again I would do a big turbo m50. You could have an M50 swapped in and running in a weekend. No way you could do that with an ls at least not your first one.

I started researching the LS swap path, then went to m60 path, and ended up beginning my build based around an m50 turbo setup - it was just much easier to build based on my research and a lot more trial and error has already been done for you

[The Dark Side of Will]

5 years of clutch kicks and drifting on the builder's mounts without gussets is enough of a sample size for me. Do you have any idea the amount of stress a clutch kick and drifting in general puts on the drivetrain?
The entire point of a clutch kick is to put a ton of shock into your drivetrain to spin the tires.

Many people haphazardly fab up shit motor mounts in their back yard that hold up well, man. It's really not rocket science.

Regardless, this guy has a great reputation in the swap community -- if you want to run polls, head over to the BMW LS Swap group on Facebook and ask them how many of their mounts have grenaded (none).
I'm 100% confident if they ever broke (they won't), he'd send me a brand new set built however I wanted them.

Less stress than a lard dragstrip launch... In fact breaking tires loose when they're already close to the edge of the traction circle from cornering load is super fucking easy, especially when the car's entire setup is focused on breaking the tires loose instead of maintaining traction. I responded in the other thread; no sense in C&P'ing here.