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  • JGood
    R3V OG
    • Jan 2004
    • 7959

    #1

    Mobil 1 V-twin 20w50 oil

    Anyone use this? I came across a large quantity for $1.85/qt, and am wondering if it is OK to use in my m20 track car. I know it's motorcycle oil, but from what I understand it's high in ZDDP.
    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
    e30 restoration and V8 swap
    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build
  • M-technik-3
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Oct 2003
    • 18946

    #2
    Valvolene VR1 is a high ZDDP oil and reasonable in price.
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    • JGood
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2004
      • 7959

      #3
      It's also $4.50+ /qt, which is 2.5x the cost. I found 37 gallons of this stuff (!) for $275...

      Normally I run non-synthetic, but this is even cheaper then the cheapest non-syn's... I can't turn it down, unless someone can tell me it's specifically not good for our motors. But all I can find so far is that a lot of air-cooled Porsche and motorcycle guys use this oil, and it's around $8/qt. It's also apparently one of the very few true group IV oils left.
      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
      e30 restoration and V8 swap
      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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      • M-technik-3
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Oct 2003
        • 18946

        #4
        Not here, guess I have a cheap autozone it's $2.57 a quart. Look for the API seals on the back and see if it has the same car seal or call BlackStone labs or another oil analysis company and ask the question.
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        • JGood
          R3V OG
          • Jan 2004
          • 7959

          #5
          If I could get any oil for $2.57/qt at autozone, I would. Even the regular Valvoline/Castrol/Pennzoil is $4+.

          VR1 20w50, $4.29 online:

          http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...Name=Valvoline
          85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
          e30 restoration and V8 swap
          24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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          • M-technik-3
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 18946

            #6
            Well I'm happy. Sorry you getting screwed out that way, what about a truck based oil like Shell Rotella?
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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #7
              rotella doesn't have great ZDDP comparatively

              Mobil 1 15w50 and VR1 are both good. I thought I heard that stuff mentioned in another thread. at that price I'd buy it and do an oil analysis.
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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #8
                Originally posted by M-technik-3
                Well I'm happy. Sorry you getting screwed out that way, what about a truck based oil like Shell Rotella?
                Yeah, it's reasonably priced, just nowhere near $1.87. And it's not a group IV full synthetic like the $8/qt Mobil is.

                I told the guy I'll take it, so we'll see what happens.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • FredK
                  R3V OG
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 14752

                  #9
                  That's insanely cheap, because my friend filled his motorcycle with 2 quarts and it costed him $10/qt at Advance Auto Parts.

                  V-twin has an insane amount of zinc in it. I doubt it'd really help or hurt you, so synthetic oil for $1.85/qt is a great deal.

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                  • M-technik-3
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18946

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nando
                    rotella doesn't have great ZDDP comparatively

                    Mobil 1 15w50 and VR1 are both good. I thought I heard that stuff mentioned in another thread. at that price I'd buy it and do an oil analysis.
                    Wasn't sure as he mentioned he would buy any conventional oils if they were cheap.
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                    • TOM1911
                      Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 51

                      #11
                      I don't know for sure but, ZDDP oils can be detrimental to automobiles with catalytics and I was told not to use them in modern cars.

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                      • M-technik-3
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18946

                        #12
                        M20's and S14's are not modern engines, the ZDDP is a wear additive helps older cars. Hence the phase out in oils. Another way of killing off older cars.
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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TOM1911
                          I don't know for sure but, ZDDP oils can be detrimental to automobiles with catalytics and I was told not to use them in modern cars.
                          supposedly, but A) E30s aren't modern and B) the actual effects on a cat isn't certain. Consider how long E30 cats last - a couple hundred thousand miles, easy.
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                          • JGood
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7959

                            #14
                            Same things I've heard. I have $50 magnaflow universal cats on my cars anyway. If they last 3 years, I'll be happy.
                            85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                            e30 restoration and V8 swap
                            24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                            • nando
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 34827

                              #15
                              yeah, those magnaflow cats aren't so good. 3 years would be a miracle.
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