Mobil 1 V-twin 20w50 oil

[SpecM]

Mobile 1 doesn't even have ZDDP in it anymore I thought or has been greatly reduced. The VR1 and the Racing formula from Valvolene still has a decent amount.

the 15w50 "racing" type does

[M-technik-3]

Extended Wear stuff? There is no more Red Cap Mobile 1 in any stores I goto and shop at here. Hence why I run dino oil again and besides my temps are slightly cooler with the 20-50 VR1.

[nando]

Mobile 1 doesn't even have ZDDP in it anymore I thought or has been greatly reduced. The VR1 and the Racing formula from Valvolene still has a decent amount.

it depends on the weight. the 15w50 still has plenty of ZDDP.

[JGood]

All of Mobil 1's car oils have relatively decent levels, 15w-50 being the highest, as nando said. 5w-50 and 0w-40 aren't far behind. Their Racing and V-Twin oils have about twice as much though.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Files/Mobil_1_Product_Guide.pdf

[nando]

it has more than most of the diesel or other dino oils that everyone always raves about..

[M-technik-3]

I read the crazy 17 page break down of the EW Mobile 1 on S14.net and it was mentioned that ZDDP was no longer an additive due to it pollutes and by killing off ZDDP oils means less and less old cars on the road.

It's what the EPA and DOT want gone.

[nando]

that's obviously not true, even the ultra thin 0w20 oils still have it (hey, how many 2010 toyotas will still be on the road in 20 years?). But it's true that the levels in conventional oil have been dropping since the 1990's.

and it's uncertain if ZDDP really even harms cats..

[M-technik-3]

http://www.ttalk.info/Zddp.htm

http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html

Needless to say this is still a hot topic in most car circles.

[JGood]

it was mentioned that ZDDP was no longer an additive

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

;)

[M-technik-3]

that's obviously not true, even the ultra thin 0w20 oils still have it (hey, how many 2010 toyotas will still be on the road in 20 years?). But it's true that the levels in conventional oil have been dropping since the 1990's.

and it's uncertain if ZDDP really even harms cats..

I was told it doesn't help the new ultra efficient design units and it still is a pollutant some hence why we have these newer oils that suspend contaminants in the oil and tend to sludge up the newer ULV this is why API SM and SJ is nearly gone.

[M-technik-3]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M-technik-3
it was mentioned that ZDDP was no longer an additive

Quote:
Originally Posted by JGood

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

;)

Rather see and independent survey, Not many out there in muscle cars nor foreign cars saying go Mobil 1 these days.

Old Red Cap sure I'll take a few drums of that but the new EW stuff no thanks.

[JGood]

Rather see and independent survey, Not many out there in muscle cars nor foreign cars saying go Mobil 1 these days.

Old Red Cap sure I'll take a few drums of that but the new EW stuff no thanks.

Here is a link to bobistheoilguy.com, specifically the subforum for reporting VOA's (Virgin Oil Analysis). People take a new bottle of oil, send it to a lab for testing, and report the results. Same thing that I did.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=11&page=1

There are pages and pages of proof that the good oils still contain decent levels of Zinc (maybe not as much as a few years ago... but still).

[JGood]

Mobil 1 10w-40 HM:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1883932#Post1883932

Mobil 1 0w-40:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1722539#Post1722539

Mobil 1 5w-30 ESP:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1620062#Post1620062

[JGood]

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mobil has the highest Zinc counts, and I can understand people who want greater then 800ppm in their oil. But whoever told you that Mobil stopped putting Zinc in their oil is full of shit.

[nando]

anything over 1100-1200 ppm is plenty for an M20, anyway. and if you have an M50, it's less important.