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    #76
    Originally posted by dnguyen1963 View Post
    He meant the tooth wheel where the CPS is getting its signal from.
    I see. Well the wheel look like it's functioning how it should. My sensor is mounted just like this one, except it had a 10mm bolt holding it not a 5mm allen.



    The CPS I had in there was very dirty, I cleaned it and still had no luck with spark. I put in the one from the yard (from car with broken tbelt) and that's the one I did the above testes with. I'm very suspicious of the CPS. I should probably pony up and buy a new one.

    Originally posted by HennaE30 View Post
    Have you checked the harness for continuity
    See post 66

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      #77
      Originally posted by ST1G View Post
      I see. Well the wheel look like it's functioning how it should. My sensor is mounted just like this one, except it had a 10mm bolt holding it not a 5mm allen.







      The CPS I had in there was very dirty, I cleaned it and still had no luck with spark. I put in the one from the yard (from car with broken tbelt) and that's the one I did the above testes with. I'm very suspicious of the CPS. I should probably pony up and buy a new one.







      See post 66

      Ah my bad... Missed that one
      Originally posted by flyboyx
      how about if i yank the anal beads out of your ass like i'm trying to pull start a chain saw?
      Originally posted by Northern
      beer is my new liver cleanse.

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        #78
        Measure the voltage at the coil while you are cranking the engine. Then use your fluke to measure engine rpms while cranking.
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          #79
          Originally posted by solo318 View Post
          Measure the voltage at the coil while you are cranking the engine. Then use your fluke to measure engine rpms while cranking.
          How do I measure the engine rpms with the multi meter?

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            #80
            Originally posted by solo318 View Post
            Measure the voltage at the coil while you are cranking the engine. Then use your fluke to measure engine rpms while cranking.


            Originally posted by ST1G View Post
            How do I measure the engine rpms with the multi meter?

            Yea how do you do that? I'd pony up and buy a new CPS so you can be 100% it's not that.


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              #81
              I know you mentioned this started as an intermittent problem but I would check the fusible link as well. Is your ECU getting power?

              From what I've read it definitely points to either a bad ground, main relay, DME, CPS or bad harness.

              Good luck
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                #82
                Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View Post
                I'd pony up and buy a new CPS so you can be 100% it's not that.
                Yeah, that's what I gotta do I think. I'm going to go talk to the parts guy at at Import Parts Specialist, he is a wizard when it comes to e30s and owns a few. I guess if it doesn't fix it I could return it too.

                Originally posted by EyExR View Post
                I know you mentioned this started as an intermittent problem but I would check the fusible link as well. Is your ECU getting power?

                From what I've read it definitely points to either a bad ground, main relay, DME, CPS or bad harness.

                Good luck
                Again, post 66 eliminates a bad ground, main relay, DME, harness. I also stated in post 56 and 41 that my DME worked in a friends car, and his didn't work in mine, thus eliminating the DME.
                Last edited by ST1G; 12-10-2014, 03:28 PM.

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                  #83
                  Yea do that for sure


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                  1991 318i 4dr slick top


                  Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                  Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                  Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                  Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                    #84
                    I snagged a new CPS tonight. It was $50 so I pulled the trigger. I plugged it in and checked pins 46 & 47 on the DME harness and now I have 50 more Ohms. So that's a good sign :D I'm going to get it all the way installed and gapped right and see what happens. I hope this is it.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by ST1G View Post
                      I snagged a new CPS tonight. It was $50 so I pulled the trigger. I plugged it in and checked pins 46 & 47 on the DME harness and now I have 50 more Ohms. So that's a good sign :D I'm going to get it all the way installed and gapped right and see what happens. I hope this is it.

                      Let's hope! Possible to have it started by the end of the night


                      1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                      1991 318i 4dr slick top


                      Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                      Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                      Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                      Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by ST1G View Post
                        I snagged a new CPS tonight. It was $50 so I pulled the trigger. I plugged it in and checked pins 46 & 47 on the DME harness and now I have 50 more Ohms. So that's a good sign :D I'm going to get it all the way installed and gapped right and see what happens. I hope this is it.

                        Good luck! Hoping for you that it works out.
                        Originally posted by flyboyx
                        how about if i yank the anal beads out of your ass like i'm trying to pull start a chain saw?
                        Originally posted by Northern
                        beer is my new liver cleanse.

                        Henna - '84 Hennarot 325e
                        Lola - '89 Schwarz 325is - being saved
                        Christine - '88 Schwarz 325is - Spec E30 Racecar
                        '01 White F150 Lariat 4x4 Supercrew - Daily
                        Dad's '05 Interlagosblau M3

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                          #87


                          Guess what guise. NO SPARK.

                          So, I put in the new CPS, got it in there, got her all situated. No spark.

                          Then I get to testing. I decide to put the multi meter on the coil positive (pin 15), and ground (body) and I'm getting 192Ω I get the same 192Ω when I put the meter between the negative terminal (pin 1) and ground (body) This was with the ignition on. This still doesn't make sense to me, since if the positive is grounded then the coil wouldn't get the signal to send spark.

                          After a few attempts to get the car to spark with nothing I checked the coil again and now I get a millisecond of continuity between pin 15 on the coil and ground and then it goes to infinite resistance (open). Same with the negative.

                          I then tried the coil from my running car. Same thing with the moment of continuity. No spark.


                          I don't even know any more.

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                            #88
                            This is getting fucking confusing. I'd be like


                            1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                            1991 318i 4dr slick top


                            Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                            Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                            Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                            Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View Post
                              This is getting fucking confusing. I'd be like
                              Seriously . That's how I feel. The only thing I've ever tried to do that's more complicated than this is mega squirt.

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                                #90
                                Car cranking, but not starting

                                Originally posted by ST1G View Post
                                Seriously . That's how I feel. The only thing I've ever tried to do that's more complicated than this is mega squirt.

                                Just yank the pos and throw in a m50 do a budget swap.


                                1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                                1991 318i 4dr slick top


                                Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                                Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                                Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                                Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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