4in springs and raceland vs jom?

[Chriskbmx]

lmk how this goes for you, where r u ordering your springs from?

[CHIF8008]

im running hyperco 4 in 2.5di 500# spring in the rear without adjusters just fine. and the stock JOM adjusters worked perfectly with them. gonna need to cut the steel bump stops if you dont plan on running an adjuster, and add padding to the trailing arm as it will now hit the fuel hose that goes to the tank on the pass. side.

[e^2]

I'm going to order from a local place that also races. 0400.225.0550 and it seems to go any lower than a 6" spring on a lowered vehicle means your spring will be to short when you droop, even with a shorter shock. I have pictures of my rear suspension somewhere but I'll try to post it up, before and after, compressed and drooped.

[einstein57]

I'm going to order from a local place that also races. 0400.225.0550 and it seems to go any lower than a 6" spring on a lowered vehicle means your spring will be to short when you droop, even with a shorter shock. I have pictures of my rear suspension somewhere but I'll try to post it up, before and after, compressed and drooped.

I like the IE spring pads. They hold the springs pretty well

At four inch your springs will fall out if you lift your wheels, right? I was going to order0600.225.0550 on monday for my rear.

The 6 in that rate will sit like H&R sports. A little tall for the typical coil spring buyer.






Here is a 4.5" 650 spring with no adjusters i think. I've put on 4 different setups. Could be a 5" 650. I'll check when i get home.

[Chriskbmx]

so i could just use a 4inch 2.5 inch spring at 550lb/in with my jom adjuster with no problem?

[e^2]

@einstein, nice stance
@chrisk, after I did some measurements on my car, I think it is possible. However, a 4" spring will fall out on full droop without a helper spring

http://www.e30m3project.com/e30m3performance/tech_articles/susp-tech/springs/index.htm

I just ordered my springs from H&R, part number was RF100570 for a 100mm(4") 570lb/in, and some part of the RF means 60mm (2.25").

[Chriskbmx]

do u have a part number for the helper? and i tryed to order from h&r and i couldn't, where did you order from?

[e^2]

Well, the shop I ordered from said there was a 6 week backorder. Weak! So I'll probably go with Eibach. Summit has them but they aren't in stock as well.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/eib-04002250550

Here is the helper spring to match.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/eib-helper225

And here is the coupler to get the two to line up.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/eib-spacer225

[Chriskbmx]

i just ordered 600lb 4inch springs. so im gonna run them on the adjuster, do i need to cut the metal bump stops or anything?

[e^2]

You might. Before you put the spring in, take the old springs out and measure the wheel/fender gap. Install the spring and measure again. The difference will be your compressed suspension travel.

[E30SPDFRK]

Why does it seem the idiots all flock to suspension threads?

I'm going to order 4" springs. It should give me 2" of upward travel before the lower sleeve hits the upper mount.

As it sits right now, my 6" rear spring with the sleeve adjusted all the way down sits right about stock height. So a 5" spring will lower it 1" with no further adjustment. I'll go 4" and adjust the sleeves up to get me 1" lower. Plus the higher spring rate springs won't compress as much. I'll get one of those tender/helper springs to keep everything in the perches.

It doesn't work like that. The spring sits about halfway between the trailing arm pivot and the wheel centerline, so a 5" spring with the same rate as your 6" spring should (theoretically) lower you about 2". It's not exactly halfway though, and there are other angles in play so it won't be exact, but don't think 1" at the spring equals 1" at the wheels.

[Stephen]

That multiplying factor is the same reason you run higher rates in the rear.


Anywho, a 4" is very short w/o adjuster and you will be in shitty part of your shocks stroke, or bottomed out if you dont go with a shorter shock.

[E30SPDFRK]

A 4" spring with no adjuster will have the trailing arms bottomed out. If you want to go that low, it is a nessecity to trim the spring centering nubs like Chif said.

[Chriskbmx]

alright thanks for everything guys, im gonna run an andjuster and all. and does anyone know of a shorter shock i can use?

[ak-]

i just ordered 600lb 4inch springs. so im gonna run them on the adjuster, do i need to cut the metal bump stops or anything?

No you don't need to cut the metal nub if you use a 4" with the adjuster and don't cut it regardless, wow.
And no it is not going to fit the rear JOM adjuster unless you unscrew the collar, flip it, and screw it back on to the sleeve. I'm telling you this because this is what I have on MY car. 4" 750lbs Hypercoil on the JOM flipped adjuster late model car.
I'm a half inch away from tucking the rim and am limited by the flipped adjuster (as I've mentioned beforehand). Considering you ordered 600lbs springs, yours will sag more when maxed out if you intend to use these waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles adjusters.