Diesel Questions

[riverdale21]

I just sent an e-mail to the Georgia Clean Air Resources Board about the matter. Hopefully they will get back with me soon.

Anyone in Europe know how much the M51 E34 525tds engines are going for on the second hand market?

[BavarianBimmer]

I just sent an e-mail to the Georgia Clean Air Resources Board about the matter. Hopefully they will get back with me soon.

Anyone in Europe know how much the M51 E34 525tds engines are going for on the second hand market?

I had acces on a 143hp 2.5 tds (you've also an 24v 115hp named as: 525td)for about 2500euros,

[AdamF 88iS]

Just get an old Rabbit Diesel. They're fun when the valve guides and seals are worn out, you can't turn the car off from all the oil getting into the the chamber. You just have to run it into a wall or tree or something.

[Fred]

Just get an old Rabbit Diesel. They're fun when the valve guides and seals are worn out, you can't turn the car off from all the oil getting into the the chamber. You just have to run it into a wall or tree or something.

There's no stop lever in the engine compartment?

[PanamaE30]

Just get an old Rabbit Diesel. They're fun when the valve guides and seals are worn out, you can't turn the car off from all the oil getting into the the chamber. You just have to run it into a wall or tree or something.

That's friggin awesome lol
i laughed so hard my coworkers thought I finally lost it.

[M-technik-3]

We won't see newer BMW diesels until at least 2006 maybe 2007. It sucks as the new M-technik 5er 530d is a awesome car. Our money hungry refinery's just won't convert to cleaner burning fuel due to they will lose a few buck in change over.

Diesel will sell more with less particle emissions and soot. Shame.

[PanamaE30]

We won't see newer BMW diesels until at least 2006 maybe 2007. It sucks as the new M-technik 5er 530d is a awesome car. Our money hungry refinery's just won't convert to cleaner burning fuel due to they will lose a few buck in change over.

Diesel will sell more with less particle emissions and soot. Shame.

Word, i was actually discussing that with my girlfriend last night. We were behind some old Montero that was dumping a crapload of smoke (and we're in cabrio). Then I went into an explanation about the diesel quality and sulfur content and blah blah blah..

The final conclusion was: in the states, no diesel because the actual diesel itself sucks causing cars to smog everyone. Here, plenty of good diesel but no one maintains their friggin buckets and everyone gets smogged as well. In conclusion.. we're all fucked lol.

[Eric]

In CA you definetly CANNOT change a gasser to a diesel. the car would not pass smog, and then would be illegal to drive. I'm sure in GA you have smog as well, so without lookking at your lawbook, I would say that you cannot put a diesel into a gas car.

Looking at the website http://www.cleanairforce.com/engine.htm on emissions regulations in Georgia I see the following:

"Diesel posered vehicles that have been converted to operate on gasoline must meet the emissions standards and applicable emission control equipment for the year, make, model of its equivalent gasoline vehicle's body and chassis. Simply put, a diesel-to-gasoline conversion is legal if the gasoline engine used was originally available from the original auto manufacture in the same year body/chassis as the diesel engine."

There was no mention of a gasoline to diesel conversion so I take it that it would be the same requirements for the reverse procedure. I take that to mean that I can swap a diesel engine into a previously gas powered car as long as a diesel was originally offered by the manufacturer in that particular chassis. Also I must use a engine from the same model year or newer. In my case I was going to use the engine from a E34 525tds in a E28. I am assuming that all of this would be legal if I did actually go through with it and it passed emissions requirements.

it's probably the other way around... since(in general) a diesel has more partical polutiant than gas, they probably don't even mention it becuase your not allowed to do it.

I'll paypal you a dollar if I'm wrong

[riverdale21]

I had acces on a 143hp 2.5 tds (you've also an 24v 115hp named as: 525td)for about 2500euros,

What about the M41s (I know its a 4 cyl.) over there?

[mikeedler]

I am here in germany and havent really seen any diesels for sale-- but havent been looking either. I have a E46 320d touring that my wife drives, and I think its an OK motor. Its very underpowered, and has more turbo lag than anything i have ever driven, but the fuel economy, and the options in the car kinda make up for it. if i could do it all again, I would not have gotten the 4cyl. it would have been the 330d!! fo sure. so overall, i think the motor sux! but i gotta live with it.

[BavarianBimmer]

I had acces on a 143hp 2.5 tds (you've also an 24v 115hp named as: 525td)for about 2500euros,

What about the M41s (I know its a 4 cyl.) over there?

-the M41 is a 1.676cc engine that's sounds like an old lawnmower and don't even know torque

-advantages of the M41; great MPG, relative reliable for ECE norms

[BavarianBimmer]

I am here in germany and havent really seen any diesels for sale-- but havent been looking either. I have a E46 320d touring that my wife drives, and I think its an OK motor. Its very underpowered, and has more turbo lag than anything i have ever driven, but the fuel economy, and the options in the car kinda make up for it. if i could do it all again, I would not have gotten the 4cyl. it would have been the 330d!! fo sure. so overall, i think the motor sux! but i gotta live with it.

E46 320d was the M47 engine IIRC

[riverdale21]

-the M41 is a 1.676cc engine that's sounds like an old lawnmower and don't even know torque

-advantages of the M41; great MPG, relative reliable for ECE norms

It is at least newer than the M21 diesels I can get a hold of here in the States. According to bimmerforums guide the M41 was available from 1995 on.

The M51 would be nice but at around $3300 U.S. it would be tough to decide. Has anyone ever driven a M41 or M51 powered car?

[BavarianBimmer]

-the M41 is a 1.676cc engine that's sounds like an old lawnmower and don't even know torque

-advantages of the M41; great MPG, relative reliable for ECE norms

It is at least newer than the M21 diesels I can get a hold of here in the States. According to bimmerforums guide the M41 was available from 1995 on.

The M51 would be nice but at around $3300 U.S. it would be tough to decide. Has anyone ever driven a M41 or M51 powered car?

Driven both cars, M41 is nice for urban traffic not more not less otherwise the M51 drives great for a non- Common-Rail diesel, the gasoil burner has a great torque on low revs ( compare it with an modded eta engine )and the 24valves dieselsound is smooth as hell


M21 and M41 smoothness is +- the same
-318tds M41 4cil has 90hp
-324d M21 6cil has 90hp
-324td M21 6cil has 115hp
-325td M51 6 cil has 115hp
-325tds M51 6 cil has 143 hp

E46 engines :

-320d M47D20 4cil has 136hp
-320d M47D20tü 4 cil has 150hp
-330d M57D30 6 cil has 163hp (184hp German version)
-330d M57D30tü 6cil has 204 hp


E38 :
-740d M67D40 8cil has 250hp (290hp Kempower Belgium chipped ;) )

[nando]

RWD, diesel.

-Charlie

too bad those things top out at 80mph