SRT-4

[jweb]

Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two.

[M-technik-3]

you know, america cant make one goddamn reliable naturally aspirated engine, so what makes me think they can produce a forced induction engine? nothing. add that to awd, and all i see is money pit. $$$$$$$$$ american engines + forced induction= unreliability

Chysler does build some reliable FI engines has been for years, The problem is once the warranty expires people don't wanna pay to fix it properly. Hence you get a pos after 70k of hard used mileage.

These cars were built for modern street thrashing as the 60's rides were. I don't blame Damiler-Chrysler for going after the cash market. Heck even Chevy is coming back out with a turboed Cavalier.

Subaru smart to use the market top infuse cash into their R&D program, They do things their way. Would I pay 32k for a WRX STi hell no but they are fast. I could build way to many differant rides with that much $$ and still be able to afford insurance.

I read 2 month ago in Hot Rod that the Neon SRT-4 was being purposely derated so people could afford to insure them. You raise the numbers to high and the Insurance agents will drive them from the scene. Just like what happened to the Hot Hatches of the late 80's and early 90's

[Jonathan M3]

The '04 srt-4s are supposedly way underrated, I've seen dynojet graphs of stockers dynoing 240+rwhp!! :shock:

Chrysler can't do many things well, but one thing they are great at is turbo'ed I-4s. Like other people stated, chrysler's turbo I-4s are strong motors, they've been refining them since the early 80s.

[Chris E30 Cab]

How about the new RX-8 instead.....I think the base model runs around US$25K....and gobs of power with a great handling rwd sports car.

The RX-8 put down the exact same laptime as the E46 M3 by the reportedly dead Stig on BBC's Top Gear......very impressive car to say the least.

[randomtask37]

How about the new RX-8 instead.....I think the base model runs around US$25K....and gobs of power with a great handling rwd sports car.

The RX-8 put down the exact same laptime as the E46 M3 by the reportedly dead Stig on BBC's Top Gear......very impressive car to say the least.

ya damn right, screw neons.

[Brew]

The base 6-speed RX-8 starts at a little over 27k.

[Jarvis]

Since the SRT-4 is putting down more power than Dodge is announcing, it's worth noting that Mazda had to lower the RX-8's official power output rating a couple of times.

[ochizon]

yeah, but arent rotary enignes notoriously short lived?

I think the neon is an awsome car, but admit it is yet unproven.
But I'll giv it the benefit of the doubt... :)

[E30godz]

its more like...people have been notoriously misinformed.

[ochizon]

its more like...people have been notoriously misinformed.

about rotary enignes, you mean?

[Rob]

actually rotaries have shitty reliability if you dont know what you're doing, which very few people do, hence the reliability reports...

[E30godz]

yea i agree, but that could go for many engines....ive spoken to a few RX-7 owners and some of them seem to geta little defensive when you refer to the "reliability issues" of their engines...i guess there are good and bad examples of every thing ; )

[reelizmpro]

Here's a very good summary of the SRT4 filled with complete specs and information.

http://www.6mt.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2470

What stood out the most when I was reading it was the bore and stroke of the engine. It was like 87.5x101mm!!! That's a pretty long stroke with some long rods. Not exactly ideal for high reving engines. Hmmmm

[E30godz]

yea i believe redline for the engine is 6250, its a 2.4 that was always advertised as "very torquey"....typically american engineering..i have a thing for high revs though..

[randomtask37]

personally if i were gona buy a car for 27k (like the rx-8 ) which IMO is a great car and a great buy, but for 3000 more you can get yourself an EVO 8! COME ON!

lancer evo 8's are the shiznit! haha, anyway, like i said earlier...

ya damn right, screw neons.