So I designed a zero lag turbo charger

[jimjim69]

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James

[BrassDrummer]

Wow... he was so close to getting this done. Actually, both of his Ideas used to be one of mine... He just broke them appart and made them more complicated haha.

Here was my idea while ago.

Install alternator coil windings in the middle of a turbo, and design the turbo in a way that the internals are always spinning at about engine speed at the minimum (With a lot of computer engineering involved to control the voltage/amprerage output at higher ends) Have it water cooled (E65 style) and voila... no need for an alternator... Just a really expensive turbonater... but the name was already taken :( haha

[TurboJake]

Install alternator coil windings in the middle of a turbo, and design the turbo in a way that the internals are always spinning at about engine speed at the minimum (With a lot of computer engineering involved to control the voltage/amprerage output at higher ends) Have it water cooled (E65 style) and voila... no need for an alternator... Just a really expensive turbonater... but the name was already taken :( haha

[Nsquared97]

Install alternator coil windings in the middle of a turbo, and design the turbo in a way that the internals are always spinning at about engine speed at the minimum (With a lot of computer engineering involved to control the voltage/amprerage output at higher ends) Have it water cooled (E65 style) and voila... no need for an alternator... Just a really expensive turbonater... but the name was already taken :( haha

You do realize that under max load a turbo spins well in excess of 100,000 rpm right...?

[stknrvrs]

http://m.jalopnik.com/5855317/will-bmws-electric-turbocharger-end-turbo-lag?tag=cartech

Just saying. And no i may not be qualified and i may not have gone to school for it. Its just an idea. Everything started with an idea. And not everybody with the ideas were qualified. I have an idea. I think it will work. i see no harm in trying to make it happen. if it works than it works. If it doesnt oh well. Im going to be having a person who works in intellectual property rights do a patent search to make sure its worth starting and i have a friend with a cnc machine who can make a prototype after said search if its still worth trying. Im not changing how turbos work. Im adding something that i think will help it. The design i have doesnt require a complete redesign of a turbo. Im taking existing technologies and making them work together in a way ive never seen them work together before. You wanna rant and rave about how stupid you think i am go ahead. i still think the idea is worth trying. Doubt me if you like. Its the way of the internet. I just thought it would be nice to share the fact that i had this idea. If you dont like it you dont have to.

[LEANE30]

You do realize that under max load a turbo spins well in excess of 100,000 rpm right...?

use gearing brah!!

[DatUtahGuy]

You do realize that under max load a turbo spins well in excess of 100,000 rpm right...?

1.21 gigawatts!!!!

How far back in time can you travel if you turbo the flux capacitor?

[jimjim69]

It's nothing in till it's DONE!!!

James

[u3b3rg33k]

You do realize that under max load a turbo spins well in excess of 100,000 rpm right...?

Depends on the turbo.

And I do recall seeing a LEGITIMATE spec for an electric turbo system once. It was basically a dissociated compressor/turbine, with a generator on the hot side, and a motor on the cold side. IIRC it required around 7kW to run the compressor at full power - but was to be capable of near instantaneous boost under any engine operating conditions, as well as charging the battery while cruising (if boost was not needed). I imagine it'll be found on hybrid semi-trucks long before it shows up in cars (unless it shows up in a 7 series turbo activehybrid first...)

If I can find it I'll post it up, not that this thread gives a fuck.

[stknrvrs]

1.21 gigawatts!!!!

How far back in time can you travel if you turbo the flux capacitor?

As long as the turbo makes exactly 1.21 bar of boost it can go to the beginning of time lol

[e46s54dr]

I hope you were not going to waste your time and money strapping an electric motor to the turbo to spin it before boost build. I remember people working on that almost 10 years ago. I have ideas on how to actually make a lag free boosted engine but it would cost a few thousand dollars to add on to your existing setup. Not worth the cost for a street car and not worth the weight for a race car.

Compound turbos?
Twin Charging?
Misfire systems? - Throttle bypass or inlet bypass causing unburnt air/fuel to ignite when it hits the exhaust manifold and spool the hot side. (works well, but it is very brutal on the engine and turbos)

How about a small electric or mechanical compressor used to pressurize an air tank used to spool the turbo?:D lol

Either way, youre trying to reinvent the wheel here. This technology has been around forever so I highly doubt you will come up with a SIMPLE solution.

[Dj Buttchug]

i love when this thread gets bumped

[TurboJake]

Depends on the turbo.

And I do recall seeing a LEGITIMATE spec for an electric turbo system once. It was basically a dissociated compressor/turbine, with a generator on the hot side, and a motor on the cold side. IIRC it required around 7kW to run the compressor at full power - but was to be capable of near instantaneous boost under any engine operating conditions, as well as charging the battery while cruising (if boost was not needed). I imagine it'll be found on hybrid semi-trucks long before it shows up in cars (unless it shows up in a 7 series turbo activehybrid first...)

If I can find it I'll post it up, not that this thread gives a fuck.

Thomas Knight superchager? Drained a car battery in I think 7 seconds. Used 3 car starters. Didn't charge the battery though. Is this what you sprechen of?






He originally started the whole thing with an Airesearch T11 bolted to a starter for 7 psi, IIRC.

[jimjim69]

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James

[u3b3rg33k]

Thomas Knight superchager? Drained a car battery in I think 7 seconds. Used 3 car starters. Didn't charge the battery though. Is this what you sprechen of?






He originally started the whole thing with an Airesearch T11 bolted to a starter for 7 psi, IIRC.

No, it was a much more "legitimate" idea (not to say that's not cool and functional) along the lines of the once used on aircraft, now used on diesel trucks - turbo compounding system.

The idea was also more instant boost, then once the exhaust gas volume caught up, it would just dump power to the motor, and not use battery (or ultra cap) for more than a short while. it could then use waste exhaust energy to supplement either an electric drive motor, or the vehicle electrics without draw on the crank, as there is energy to be had from the exhaust (as the turbo compounding systems have demonstrated). There's at least a 10% overall energy savings to be had via these methods - the question is at what point is it economically feasible to add. It works on semi trucks, as 10% of $300k in fuel is a buttload of $, but on a prius the extra 2MPG are significantly less cost effective to go after (when such a system adds 9 or $10k).