SUBAROYDA or TOYBARU or whatever its called, its finally out

[Bimmerman325i]

For the supposed size/power of the engine....that bay is just a fudging mess.... Please bring back the days when one could stand in the bay....or at least get your hands around it to work on. Damn new cars...damn them all to hell!! ;-)

EDIT: ...

um....pretty much all subaru bays look like that. Flat engine means it's difficult to hide all the hoses and wires to people's satisfaction, so they just say "hell with it"

[Brilliantrot 318is]

that is hideous. they are coming up with uglier cars every year..

[Holland]

that is hideous. they are coming up with uglier cars every year..

And they are just going to get worse every year. Let's face it, the fact we like the old boxy styling means we will always hate most new styling.

[tjts1]

I like the way it looks. It will sell out very quickly in the first couple of years at least. I'll be looking to buy one when it hits the used market.

[dantheman]

Throw on some not-fugly wheels and dump it!

Always been a subie guy, but this time, I'd take the toyota.

[walktheboard]

I bet there will not be an STi version, it would directly affect the sales of the impreza STi... unless Subaru is predicting that the AWD wrx chassis will not sell as much in the future, and this will replace it

[DuMa]

Subie confirms development for a turbo engine for the BRZ.

http://wot.motortrend.com/subaru-confirms-turbocharged-version-of-brz-engine-143015.html

[tjts1]

But that all changed a week ago when I walked into the reveal of the Scion FR-S here in Hollywood. The car in front of me wasn't about bullshit numbers that translate into very little experience. It wasn't about features and it wasn't about image. It's not designed to perfectly accentuate Mr. Bluetooth Earpiece's striped shirt or make Sally Homemaker feel rugged. Unlike literally every other car on the market in 2011, it's made to do one thing and one thing only. It's made to be driven.

There's been some bitching in Jalop circles that the Scion FR-S/Toyota GT 86 and its Subaru BRZ cousin don't make headline-grabbing power figures. To them, I say, who cares? I've driven the most powerful cars on the planet and been bored to tears doing so. The problem is, that with ridiculous power, comes ridiculous liability.

No automaker is free to allow mere mortals to exploit a 556 HP luxury car without intervention. And I'm not talking about just the electronic kind. Chassis on those cars are tuned for safety, not driver involvement. Stability at high speeds, not agility in tight corners. The hugely wide and extremely low-profile tires needed to put that power to the road grip like hell, but utterly refuse to slide in a controllable manner. Where's the fun when you only have two choices on the menu: grip or spin?

In fact, the whole concept that speed somehow correlates with what we want to do as drivers is completely erroneous. I'm not in this to read some number off a dashboard, I drive cars and ride bikes to develop new skills, then practice them. I drive to participate in a landscape and, occasionally, to scare myself.

The best driver's car I've ever owned was a BMW that weighed 2,813 Lbs and made 167 HP.

http://jalopnik.com/subaru-brz/

[E-Thirty]

^ *golf clap* Fantastic.

[Nsquared97]

That is a great article. And explains exactly why more people, espicially us E30 owners, should be excited for this car.

[Jon325i]

That Jalopnik article sums it up very nicely. A good read and it makes so many valid points which I believe many genuine car enthusiasts (regardless of your brand loyalty) will agree with. I am very intrigued by this car. Maybe in a few years when depreciation has set in and the aftermarket steps up I'd consider buying one.

There are very few new cars on the market today (within my financial means) which I would plunk down my money for. The FR-S/BRZ is one of my top picks.

Jon

[e30nub]

[DuMa]

2013 Scion FR-S: 10 Things You Don't Know

The reviews for this thing has been godly. i have yet to see a bad review

[Bimmerman325i]

2013 Scion FR-S: 10 Things You Don't Know

The reviews for this thing has been godly. i have yet to see a bad review

It's an amazing car. It more than anything else is motivating me to finish grad school asap.

[wannaBMthree]

This is what happens when you actually listen to what the enthusiasts want, not just the finance department.

BMW could take some cues.

The whole package comes together to fill a gaping hole in the American market.