New cars are so Ugly

[A Sucked Orange]

Yes, before 2003, no one designed a car for sales reasons.

-Charlie

Hardly the point I made.

-Charlie

[750]

One point, in a new car if you do something you can not get away with it.

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/totaled-car-black-box-caught-politician-speeding-192330059.html

black box still strike.

[Wh33lhop]

I'll just say this... The old cars we like, was once new cars that wasnt liked....

This is something that more people need to think about.

[Charlie]

The desire to sell as many cars as possible has become the dictator of design.

As we now have global markets, everything is watered down to appeal to the masses. Design traditions have been smashed to pieces.

Yes, before 2003, no one designed a car for sales reasons.

-Charlie

[A Sucked Orange]

The desire to sell as many cars as possible has become the dictator of design.

As we now have global markets, everything is watered down to appeal to the masses. Design traditions have been smashed to pieces.

[warmseth]

Pedestrian safety (tall bubbly hoods) and aerodynamics for the same of mpg (everything looking like a Prius) are a BIG part of the problem.

[ohthejosh]

I feel as if imported cars are getting bigger while domestics are getting smaller. I think this world needs the era of hot hatches back :)

[Charlie]

I think it all comes down to personal preference.

I started shopping a while ago for a newer car. I looked at 5er wagons, Audi Avants, even went so far as considering a truck so I could haul stuff for my house.

I wanted something I found attractive, fun to drive, utilitarian and most importantly something I could work on with relative ease. All the new car dealers were offering free maintenance and silly hats to go with the cars, none of which I cared about. I didn't feel like giving $500 of my money/month to drive something I could settle on.

You know what I did? I got a '91 Range Rover County. It doesn't run yet, it looks like shit, I haven't even sat in it. I paid nothing for it and I am very pleased with myself. It will do everything the newer stuff I looked at will do and will cost me less in maintenance & resto over the first year than it would cost me in 3 months of car payments and insurance.

Can I afford to buy a nice new car? Yeah. Do I want one? I dunno. Will I spend my money on it. Probably not. I'll buy a new car when Mr. Average is done paying the depreciation for me and doesn't think it's worth anything anymore. /rant

So, you needed a DD and a truck to haul stuff and ended up purchasing a non running landrover from the lowest point of LR reliability. That's saying something coming from land rover. You didn't want a car payment, so you bought someone's lawn ornament.

Smart.

-Charlie

[BoxDriver86]

I think it all comes down to personal preference.

I started shopping a while ago for a newer car. I looked at 5er wagons, Audi Avants, even went so far as considering a truck so I could haul stuff for my house.

I wanted something I found attractive, fun to drive, utilitarian and most importantly something I could work on with relative ease. All the new car dealers were offering free maintenance and silly hats to go with the cars, none of which I cared about. I didn't feel like giving $500 of my money/month to drive something I could settle on.

You know what I did? I got a '91 Range Rover County. It doesn't run yet, it looks like shit, I haven't even sat in it. I paid nothing for it and I am very pleased with myself. It will do everything the newer stuff I looked at will do and will cost me less in maintenance & resto over the first year than it would cost me in 3 months of car payments and insurance.

Can I afford to buy a nice new car? Yeah. Do I want one? I dunno. Will I spend my money on it. Probably not. I'll buy a new car when Mr. Average is done paying the depreciation for me and doesn't think it's worth anything anymore. /rant

[Charlie]

Brezzi you da man!

Definitely watching cars get bigger every year as I grew up was a sore sight. And all we get in this "fuel crisis" is god damned hybrids! I almost got crushed by a hybrid Silverado the other day, huge and quite as a mouse, that shit just isn't right. Would've died without a clue.

The "electric only" mode in the Silverado only goes up to 5 mph. You couldn't see a huge pickup truck coming at you at a crawl pace?

Without subsidies, Diesel makes no sense at all in the American market, Hybrids are an excellent solution for fuel economy based on most american driving styles and vehicle tastes.

-Charlie

[Prototyp3]

Brezzi you da man!

Definitely watching cars get bigger every year as I grew up was a sore sight. And all we get in this "fuel crisis" is god damned hybrids! I almost got crushed by a hybrid Silverado the other day, huge and quite as a mouse, that shit just isn't right. Would've died without a clue.

Hybrid, the silent killer....

[nando]

this thread is stupid (there are lots of nice looking "new" cars), but I will not likely ever buy a brand new car.. and I'm not a broke college student either. I just can't stand the thought of paying $30,000+ for something that will be worth maybe $5k in less than 10 years. it's absolutely retarded.

I'd rather be on the other end of that transaction. For example, E46 M3s are becoming cash cars... just watch how fast their market values drop!

actually, my mother in law thinks I need a new car because mine's old. She definitely doesn't "get it". but whatever. Maybe i could use that as an excuse to get an E46 M3 when some poor smuck has to sell it for $7,000 to buy a new F30 M3 for $70,000.

[PKR]

Interesting thread.
My personal opinion is that car design "tends" to reflect society's current preferences. As a gray-hair I've seen it happen alot. I'm inclined to categorize today's designs as the Bling Era; that applies not just to cars but watches, clothes ... lots of things. With cars there are other issues, of course but this is definitely not one of my favorites and I suspect one that will not age well.
Don't even get me started on the infamous "Bungled" designs!

[lambo]

For the most part, yes. But I see myself being in the position to purchase one way later on in life. An E30 can only do so much...unless I get an S54 ix touring.........hmmmmm

[KenC]

Yeah... looks terrible. Meets USDOT safety standards as well.

A buddy of mine just bought one. MOST. INCREDIBLE. CAR. EVER.