Petition to repalce check engine light with something useful

[mr.vang]

What exactly do you propose to replace the CEL? Its pretty damn useful and easy to use as is. CEL goes on, plug in ELM327, turn on android app, DONE. The tool costs $18 and the app is free. Is that too much for you to handle?

they have an app for that? coooooooooooooooooooool

[77320i]

Spam? 9 posts and a screen name that is a group of random numbers?

You all just got trolled.

Stands for 1977 320i

[tjts1]

The notion is (I believe) that most new cara have relatively dynamic LCD displays that can read a message that is more detailed. So instead of just check engine it might read low compression cylinder 4 or something and you could then take it to a mechanic with more information.

Get a god damn code reader, its $20 and quit being so god damn useless god damn it.

[trackjunkie21]

The notion is (I believe) that most new cara have relatively dynamic LCD displays that can read a message that is more detailed. So instead of just check engine it might read low compression cylinder 4 or something and you could then take it to a mechanic with more information.

I don't see that working, it's bad enough a customer comes in stating they know the problem because their idiot friend who does oil changes for a living knows everything there is to know about cars. If the LCD actually stated the code then the customer would be an even bigger pain in the ass. For example, if the MAF code comes up, it's probably a vacuum leak or something of that sort, but the average joe wouldn't know that. I say this is a horrible idea that wasn't thought through thoroughly

[Vivek]

I'm not sure if this is the right forum and I didn't see it posted before so admins if it's not please move it to the correct location.

Basically, there is a petition to replace the useless POS "Check Engine" light on new cars with something that you don't need a scanner to read and that will display the error on a screen.

Check it out, even if you don't own a new car, one day you may, or may buy a used car that will be newer than an E30 at some point and this would be a benefit to everyone.

I'm not sure if this is the right forum so admins if it's not please move it to the correct location.

Basically, there is a petition to replace the useless POS "Check Engine" light on new cars with something that you don't need a scanner to read and that will display the error on a screen.

Check it out, even if you don't own a new car, one day you may, or may buy a used car that will be newer than an E30 at some point and this would be a benefit to everyone.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...wrong/n8GH9qqg

Am I high right now?

[Raxe]

I signed it, I think it's a fantastic idea to have the government enact a law forcing auto manufacturers to change the design of their vehicles because I hate capitalism. :)

Won't make a lick of difference though, every issue is cause by "the sensor" anyways so they might as well change the illuminated symbol to read a static "THE SENSOR MALFUNCTIONED" and be done with it.

[SpecM]

This. But what about codes that make it seem your catalytic converter is bad but it's really just a loose gas cap? A little kanoledge goes a long way.

What code "seems" like a cat but is just a loose gas cap? Catalyst efficiency ≠ Evap leak

This is a stupid idea. If you want to pretend to work on cars, you need to buy the right tools.

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[CrusherCurtis]

What a great idea

[Stoner Sam23]

More stuff to break and not pass "safety" inspection. Lights on dash make cars less safe

[smooth]

Get a god damn code reader, its $20 and quit being so god damn useless god damn it.

Is there anything remotely similar for obd-1?

[tjts1]

Is there anything remotely similar for obd-1?

Yup, its called megasquirt but its nowhere near as cheap or simple ;)

Another ELM327+Torque app

[sticksdaman]

Holy SHIT!

I wish i had kept the obdII on my swap, thats amazing! I wish they made this for obd1

[slammin.e28]

Maybe if the gvmnt would fuck off and quit requiring the automotive industry to do shit we wouldn't have OBDII and everyone would be putzing around in e30s and e28s.

Also, thread title.... "repalse"? Please make the necessary changes to correct a win on the part of dyslexia.

KTHXBAI!

[tifosichris]

I don't see that working, it's bad enough a customer comes in stating they know the problem because their idiot friend who does oil changes for a living knows everything there is to know about cars. If the LCD actually stated the code then the customer would be an even bigger pain in the ass. For example, if the MAF code comes up, it's probably a vacuum leak or something of that sort, but the average joe wouldn't know that. I say this is a horrible idea that wasn't thought through thoroughly

This.

I have enough trouble with customers who come in saying "ohh i read on the forums its xxxx" or "yea, that sounds like a xxxx to me". I work at at Audi dealership in service and the last thing i want is more customers coming in thinking they know whats wrong with their car.

[nando]

I'd be down for a petition to simplify cars abit. Some of the new technology can be very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing..Also making it near impossible to work on your car at home now.

dangerous? LOL

as said, a $20 adapter and a free App, you can read/reset codes to your hearts content.

I'm thinking whoever thought of this idiotic petition has no business working anywhere near an OBDII car in the first place.