What RPMs do you shift at?

[canadiankid]

Actually I've learned to shift (up AND down) without the clutch at all. Took a helluva time, but its smooooth now. Clutches are for those without timing and rhythm comparatively. ;-)

I know I am going to get questions, so here's the vid that I learned from:

Doesnt that mean your tranny is smoked. My first car(sunfire) the clutch hydraulics pretty much gave out and I still drove it for a year. Only thing that made shifting easier was alot of grinding gears down. I assumed I ground it down enough that shifting was smooth. Unless I actually did get timing down. Although my buddy drove it once and said "oh crap I forgot to clutch and it didt grind." it was his first time in a standard.

[R3Z3N]

^^No, doesn't mean you have killed/hurt the synchros. If your grinding, you ARE hurting the synchros.... Clutchless shifting works because YOU ARE ALWAYS revmatching, and pulling out of gear with no load on the trans, hence why the synchros slide right in/out with no grinding. I am simplifying it a little, so go ahead and read up on it and how transmissions work.

[slammin.e28]

6K all day.

M30 4 LYFE!

[acolella76]

i don't shift :|

[rturbo 930]

3-4k for me. I'll take it a little higher if I'm merging onto a highway or something.

[spike68]

I guess the only reason i shift under 3k is cause thats usually where my car sounds like it "opens up" or hits its power band (m20). Ill usually hit 4.5k if im feeling like a douche bag driving, but im a pretty chill driver.

[Vivek]

You shift before the power band to get the least power from your engine, so you don't feel like a douche? I just remembered that the only thing my examiner had to say after my license test was that he felt that I didn't shift early enough.

[sohc12vm20]

2500 for me..

[gtdragon980]

I shift around 2.5-3k in my e30, and I try not to go above 3k unless duty calls for it. My heavy ass e46 on the other hand, I shift at least around 3k since it feels like a pig compared to my slender e30! haha

^^No, doesn't mean you have killed/hurt the synchros. If your grinding, you ARE hurting the synchros.... Clutchless shifting works because YOU ARE ALWAYS revmatching, and pulling out of gear with no load on the trans, hence why the synchros slide right in/out with no grinding. I am simplifying it a little, so go ahead and read up on it and how transmissions work.

I don't know but when I was doing this, although it was smooth when performed correctly, I didn't see the point in doing so nor how it could be any good for our cars. It is in fact slower than shifting with a clutch and the slightest slip up on timing and bam! You grind. Personally, I think it is best to wear the clutch down rather than risk destroying your synchros.

[sohc12vm20]

about 2800-2900. unless I'm purposely trying to go fast...then depends,maybe 6500? Its been above 7000 a bit in auto X just fine, I'm just hearing it bounce off the limiter at 7200.

My commute to work, all of 6 miles but through traffic up the ass everywhere taking the cuts around, i still manage about 20mpg. on long trips ive gotten high as 26.7 mpg according to OBC

Ive seen you above 5k down Laurelwood, or something like that..

[QUKBMER]

Cold up to 3000 rpm/After warm up 4000 to 6500 rpm Pending on the mood.

[R3Z3N]

I shift around 2.5-3k in my e30, and I try not to go above 3k unless duty calls for it. My heavy ass e46 on the other hand, I shift at least around 3k since it feels like a pig compared to my slender e30! haha


I don't know but when I was doing this, although it was smooth when performed correctly, I didn't see the point in doing so nor how it could be any good for our cars. It is in fact slower than shifting with a clutch and the slightest slip up on timing and bam! You grind. Personally, I think it is best to wear the clutch down rather than risk destroying your synchros.

Partly I brought it up in jest, but this is also the beauty of owning a manual. So many ways to have fun! I heal-toe around town now, other times rarely using the brake to stop (annoys others that are tailgating), or drive as I stated earlier. I really do enjoy hearing my intake and exhaust at 6500 rpm, after that it sounds and feels flat, but the car is loud enough to attract a cops attention, so just after vanos hits usually, but not WOT to get there.

You are right though, I would rather destroy the clutch than the synchros. However cheap a ZF tranny may be...

[gtdragon980]

Partly I brought it up in jest, but this is also the beauty of owning a manual. So many ways to have fun! I heal-toe around town now, other times rarely using the brake to stop (annoys others that are tailgating), or drive as I stated earlier. I really do enjoy hearing my intake and exhaust at 6500 rpm, after that it sounds and feels flat, but the car is loud enough to attract a cops attention, so just after vanos hits usually, but not WOT to get there.

You are right though, I would rather destroy the clutch than the synchros. However cheap a ZF tranny may be...

Yes, driving a manual makes driving as a whole a much better experience. You pretty much have complete control over what the car is doing, and a nice heel-toe downshift always impresses the passengers during spirited drives! I love that I can just sit in 1st gear foot off the throttle and just creep in traffic without even touching the clutch unless I need to stop.

[lambo]

rarely using the brake to stop (annoys others that are tailgating)

I do this all the time! I hate it how most people charge up to a stoplight and slam the brakes...

[Thizzelle]

m42 12 o clock posistion
s14 same untill i punch it then 8500