Spun out in the snow today...

[Xat1cZ]

[AirplaneBuilder]

Forgot who it was, but I thought I read on here that a RWD car with snow tires will do better than an AWD car with all-seasons. Any truth behind that?

Yes and no. On average, the AWD car will still have more go and be easier to drive (aka, mashing the pedal like a retard won't kick that tail out). On the other hand, the AWD car won't stop for shit on most a/s tires and it won't turn either.

I think AWD can stop faster if you downshift in 2nd or 1st gear depending on how quick your going, when i had my 97 subaru legacy 5 speed it slowed down quicker if i downshifted instead of hitting the abs brakes when i was going 20+mph but as far as going up hill/starting off the AWD beats any front wheel or rear wheel drive hands down. All the suvs you see in ditches is just dumb ass drivers.

[deutschman]

[deutschman]

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Everyone should do it. Especially young drivers.

it will stop better for sure. But even in the ix I won't risk it on regulat tires on ice and snow, it's too dangerous. I've done it in a pinch but sliding through an intersection at 5mph is no fun no matter how many wheels are driven.

with snow tires it's basically an unstoppable BMW snowmobile. so much fun!

My tires were not bald. We're they perfect and new? No. But not bald ether.
I wouldn't have taken my car if I knew it was going to snow so hard. Weather report said rain. Go figure ha.
If I hadn't of had my chains we would have been fucked. Just to much unexpected snow.

As fare as AWD or 4WD cars go, I know they won't stop you much if any faster, but they might help you not get in a spin in the first place. Along with a good set of snow tires.

[Nick_S]

LOL what does AWD have to do with how will a car will stop.

Friend of mine was rear ended in the snow last year. The driver, a woman who wouldn't get off her phone was baffled how her AWD SUV didn't stop in the snow. She was on 1/2 worn stock all season tires. She was cited for failure to control, the accident and being outside of the kitchen.

I have snows for both cars. My E30 never spun out or felt squirrely in the snow last year. Actually having no traction control and very little in the way of ABS help really helps you get in tune with the car and can feel everything before it gets too out of hand.

[dannyyisntt]

I wouldn't have taken my car if I knew it was going to snow so hard. Weather report said rain. Go figure ha.
If I hadn't of had my chains we would have been fucked. Just to much unexpected snow.

Were those pictures from the same day when you got all that snow?

[F34R]

I laughed SO HARD from this...classes? snicker

I know alot of you have zero idea how to drive in snow or how to predict how the road will be ice or not.
I just have moved around alot and seen how people react to snow. Like they are just scared of 3" of snow, where in NY we are used to shoveling out 2-3' of snow to get to work.

RWD with a LSD and snow tires is not bad in the winter. But a light FWD is hands down better, and a AWD or 4x4 is even better. There is a thing to remember, the AWD will get you killed because you have traction to get going faster. It never changes for stopping. If the car is heavy it just slides till it hits something to stop. I say if you don't know the area drive at a safe pace. I deal with it every year and I have been driving in it for 11 years now on the road. Before that my father made me learn how to handle snow when I was 11 in a field with a beater car. I have not crashed yet due to his lessons and 40+ years of experience.

This is so true(I love seeing tourists in ditches):

[10Toes]

Yes and no. On average, the AWD car will still have more go and be easier to drive (aka, mashing the pedal like a retard won't kick that tail out). On the other hand, the AWD car won't stop for shit on most a/s tires and it won't turn either.

Very little*. Which is why you see lots of SUVs overturned in ditches when it snows.

* Obviously which wheels are driven does impact the off throttle characteristics of the car.

My E30 with non studded snow tires handles, stops, and accelerates better in the snow then my A4 with All seasons did. But obviously when my A4 had winters it trumped the E30.



You lack all reading comprehension dont you?

He is saying that the tires make the difference, not the drivetrain.

I read just fine, you are a fucking idiot.

[F34R]

Before people say they know how to drive in snow...here is last years for me:

e24 on the left(stock height) and my brother's vert donor on the right.

[Cletonius]

Are these pics from when you spun out? That's hardly any snow! Weak dude, slow down in bad weather.

[DisgustipatedAP1]

Yes and no. On average, the AWD car will still have more go and be easier to drive (aka, mashing the pedal like a retard won't kick that tail out). On the other hand, the AWD car won't stop for shit on most a/s tires and it won't turn either.

LOL generalization fail.

Must've never driven a decent AWD car.

[nando]

LOL generalization fail.

Must've never driven a decent AWD car.

Please, tell us how having AWD makes your tires stick better to the road when stopping. magic?

[dannyyisntt]

Please, tell us how having AWD makes your tires stick better to the road when stopping. magic?

How exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does the sun set? How exactly does a positrack rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does.

[lambo]

Hai guise



LSD, shitty all seasons and I never got stuck/spun out/r3v'd once. There's nothing better for winter driving than driving in a smart, cautious manner...

[DisgustipatedAP1]

Please, tell us how having AWD makes your tires stick better to the road when stopping. magic?

Who said anything about stopping? Just powerslide like a boss into a tree, that's a pretty quick way to stop. :giggle: