The OFFICIAL 2013 Formula 1 thread!

[Roysneon]

I streamed qualifying for the first time. Oh God what a tease now I can't wait for the race.

[b*saint]

Is it just me or is NBC showing P1 as the "P2" session? They did this to me when I recorded monaco practice.

[TDE30]

Emily, I hate when bishes do that trailing last letter shit (e.g. "heyyyyyy" or "omgggggg"). You should really cut that nonsense out, have a super day.

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[mcr_driver]

http://en.espnf1.com/usracing/motors...ry/109752.html

Forumla one in arizona? Meh not likely and the same unfortunately for Long beach so long as Indy car holds a contract there.

[z31maniac]

What's everyone's thoughts on the Pirelli/Merc test day a few weeks ago?

I don't think anyone is going to correlate that 1000km test with Rosberg's victory in Monaco (he drove brilliantly,) but it's surprising to hear that it's being dragged on and on without a verdict. I understand SF had a similar test in their F150 Italia (2011 car) and escaped penalty due to that fact; by contrast, Merc used their 2013 car to aid Pirelli in tire development, or at least that's how the story goes. I think we all know the FIA regs on in-season testing, but this seems to have fallen in a very distinct grey area from my view. Hell, it almost seems like Pirelli bears more responsibility in this matter.

Now it sounds like the FIA is proceeding with an 'International Tribunal', some suspect verdict is pending this weekend's Canadian GP results (mmhmm.) While some team principals have been quoted on the matter, no one has been more vocal about it than RBR (or IRBRR or whatever they've called themselves now.) I think it remains to be seen what Merc gained from the test, a sudden victory at Monaco by one of Formula One's least successful drivers (2 victories in 134 starts currently,) raises an eyebrow or two, but Hamilton's P4 finish seems about average IMO.

So what say ye R3V, lots of bitching or is it a legitimate argument worthy of the "-gate" suffix that the automotive world has given this debacle?

Not sure yet, we will see what comes of the FIA Tribunal.

However, prima facie, it looks incredibly suspicious.

[mcr_driver]

Should be a cold, wet practice & qualifying with a warm, sunny race. This could get interesting.

Sounds like my last relationship and my current one...cold and dangerous leading to warm and positvely bright future lol

[quickervicar]

Should be a cold, wet practice & qualifying with a warm, sunny race. This could get interesting.

[Roysneon]

Merc used their current car. Not legal, period. Also in season testing for the tire manufacturer is legal so long as all teams have an equal opportunity to partake. Pirelli apparently did not offer to all teams.

It doesn't really matter to me too much if they are penalized as they haven't been such a contender for race wins and aren't going to have a chance at the championship, but rules were still broken and it sets a dangerous precedent if no action is taken.

[mcr_driver]

The greesy wheel gets the cheese. Although that metaphor never made any sense to me :rofl: Ecclestone can throw enough money at this to make it go away if need be I'd wager. But if he steps down who becomes the head of the FIA?

[GAbOS]

I think the "tire test" is a bit unfair for other teams. That's why there's the specific rule that does allow testing, but only with cars 2 years older or more. 1000km is A LOT of testing. It's one of those things where either you let everyone test, or none at all.

And I hope Ecclestone gets nailed. I don't see how he cannot since his accomplice has already been found guilty.

[GAbOS]

I think the "tire test" is a bit unfair for other teams. That's why there's the specific rule that does allow testing, but only with cars 2 years older or more. 1000km is A LOT of testing. It's one of those things where either you let everyone test, or none at all.

And I hope Ecclestone gets nailed. I don't see how he cannot since his accomplice has already been found guilty.

[mcr_driver]

Monaco was a legitmate win tire testing or not, all year they've been great at qualifying and monaco is hard on passing so it wasn't a big shock to see him take podium.

I think it is a violation of the rules to use a 2013 car. I recall mercedes stating the reason why was because the 2011 was not available. Ok then move on to another team or use a 2010/2012 year car. Using a current model car allows for more testing for mercedes and more development as they can always analyze the resulting wear and tear on the moving parts after the fact, even if they can't test anything on site. Not to mention the driver reports could also aid in chassis development. These tires feel like this or that regardless if they are aware of what those compounds are.

I am aware from the article that they kept the FIA involved throughout the entire process and was not stopped at all by the FIA during that time frame but who exactly were they speaking with? A single individual or a certain department within the FIA is uncertain.

The question is what penalty seems appropriate if found guilty?


Also are the charges against Ecclestone still pending or was he found guilty/not guilty yet for accepting bribes?

[TDE30]

What's everyone's thoughts on the Pirelli/Merc test day a few weeks ago?

I don't think anyone is going to correlate that 1000km test with Rosberg's victory in Monaco (he drove brilliantly,) but it's surprising to hear that it's being dragged on and on without a verdict. I understand SF had a similar test in their F150 Italia (2011 car) and escaped penalty due to that fact; by contrast, Merc used their 2013 car to aid Pirelli in tire development, or at least that's how the story goes. I think we all know the FIA regs on in-season testing, but this seems to have fallen in a very distinct grey area from my view. Hell, it almost seems like Pirelli bears more responsibility in this matter.

Now it sounds like the FIA is proceeding with an 'International Tribunal', some suspect verdict is pending this weekend's Canadian GP results (mmhmm.) While some team principals have been quoted on the matter, no one has been more vocal about it than RBR (or IRBRR or whatever they've called themselves now.) I think it remains to be seen what Merc gained from the test, a sudden victory at Monaco by one of Formula One's least successful drivers (2 victories in 134 starts currently,) raises an eyebrow or two, but Hamilton's P4 finish seems about average IMO.

So what say ye R3V, lots of bitching or is it a legitimate argument worthy of the "-gate" suffix that the automotive world has given this debacle?

[mcr_driver]

Definitely would like to see Kimi in the running I imagine it being between Kimi, Vettel and Alonso this year in that order, no one else is even remotely in contention.