The OFFICIAL 2013 Formula 1 thread!

[10Toes]

^Vettel fan calling Hamilton a crybaby

[z31maniac]

I'll be honest, I've skipped about the half the races and 2-3 quali's.

Malaysia, Webber doesn't seem to have traction control, etc.....I hate to say it, but I'm going to pulling for Hamilton/Rosberg next year and probably watching more Sports Car racing.

[Jand3rson]

^Vettel fan calling Hamilton a crybaby

Fascinating, you found a video clip of Vettel getting whiny and upset. I could find 25 of Hamilton doing the same in the time it takes for that video to finish playing. JUST during races. If we expand the search to ALL instances of Hamilton bitching and blaming something/someone after races and in press conferences, I'd need several minutes, at least.

[unevolved]

Interesting how Vettel has been getting less and less TV coverage because he just drives off and leaves the pack, and the cameras are always focused on the cars in the battle for 2nd. Wonder how long it'll take before sponsors start getting agitated? I know it's counter-intuitive, but the non-racing sponsors get nothing from winnings, they're in it for the TV exposure.

[tg318is]

Fascinating, you found a video clip of Vettel getting whiny and upset. I could find 25 of Hamilton doing the same in the time it takes for that video to finish playing. JUST during races. If we expand the search to ALL instances of Hamilton bitching and blaming something/someone after races and in press conferences, I'd need several minutes, at least.

I'm not sure that Toes' point is he is a monumental whinger (as Hamilton was for the last few seasons), but that he has increasingly complained throughout this season about fickle 'problems'. You cannot argue that Vettel has been more vocal this season (or at least the media is spinning it that way by broadcasting more of Vettel's radio comms) while Hamilton has been more tame than his last campaigns.

Just my thoughts.

[Eric]

(or at least the media is spinning it that way by broadcasting more of Vettel's radio comms)

I wonder how much bickering the other drivers are doing all race on the radios. It'd be awesome if you could have a live feed to a team radio without the TV people picking and choosing what to air.


I'm really enjoying Hulkenburg's surge, I hope he gets a seat at Lotus.

[Hick]

Let's start by saying 'I am not a Vettel fan, I'm more of a Vettel unfan' but it was nice to see him genuenly excited about his 4th title.

I remember all the ill will towards Schumacher in his hay day for much the same reason, and my father always told me to enjoy it because you do not see someone with this much talent very often (of course not knowing Vettel would come about).

That said, congrats to Vettel for a hard fought season.

[Jand3rson]

I remember all the ill will towards Schumacher in his hay day for much the same reason, and my father always told me to enjoy it because you do not see someone with this much talent very often.

This. Because when you're on top, especially for a long as Vettel has been, everyone below you (and their fans) are going to find every reason to bitch.

Schumi used to get ALL the same shit, exact same shit, so did Senna. Comes with the territory.

[unevolved]

Yeah, people seem to forget how big of a dick Senna was on track and how dirty he drove. Say what you will about Vettel, but he drives clean.

[Hick]

Yeah, people seem to forget how big of a dick Senna was on track and how dirty he drove. Say what you will about Vettel, but he drives clean.

Unless you're his teammate.

[mcr_driver]

Yeah, people seem to forget how big of a dick Senna was on track and how dirty he drove. Say what you will about Vettel, but he drives clean.

Vettel's far from clean, multi 21 anybody? Or the occasional teammate contact crash scenario. Granted Senna was no better as mentioned but you don't get to that level without being a bit shady from time to time.

That being said who takes first loser spot this year? Alonso and Ferrari, Kimi and Lotus or Hamilton with Mercedes.

[unevolved]

Senna wrecked both his car and Prost's intentionally to secure the championship. That's ruthless, not ignoring waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles team orders.

[mcr_driver]

http://en.espnf1.com/abudhabi/motors...ry/133491.html

Back of the grid for Kimi, fair or not?

[GillesBigCowboy]

Can you imagine, really imagine, how much fun it would be to start at the back of the f1 grid, in Abu Dhabi in a Lotus?

[Roysneon]

Can you imagine, really imagine, how much fun it would be to start at the back of the f1 grid, in Abu Dhabi in a Lotus?

Not very, as it turns out.

Also, I'm a RBR fan, but I'm really finding it hard to believe that there isn't something different about SVs car. Not necessarily something against current regulations but who knows what Adrian has up his sleeve that the FIA doesn't even know to look for.