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    Its story time about my E30 trip/acquisition (LONG story, Pictures and Video).

    Its story time now that I have some time to sit down and write my story.

    Last summer I bought my second E30, a 1987 BMW 325is. This was after a 4 year hiatus.

    This trip was a bit special though, for roughly 3 years I had been planning to get another E30 after selling my first one.

    I was visiting my family in Europe at the time and when I was in Austria visiting my brother I said to myself "I have the money now and the time, if not now then when?".

    Next thing you know I bought myself a ticket to Los Angeles on a whim.

    Flying over Greenland:


    I slept on this couch for 2 weeks during my search for the right E30. The couch was in a 9am-5pm office in an expensive condo in downtown Los Angeles where my lifelong family friend worked:



    I was under no specific time line and it literally took me 2 weeks of looking every day to find the right E30, I did nothing but eat sleep and breath looking for/at E30's. My only criteria were: All vins matching, never been in an accident and no rust. I was always the first to show up to every E30 that was posted forsale. The VAST majority of cars had either been in an accident or were in abysmal shape contrary to the ad descriptions. I highly recommend against buying a car sight unseen.

    The story of the two E30's I almost bought:

    First E30 I considered buying was an alpine white 325is, however the buyer did not have the original title and only had a DMV temp. He was expecting the title in the mail in 2 weeks, and this basically killed the deal for me. To cross the Canadian border I needed the original title, no ifs ands or buts.

    Second E30 I considered buying was a blue 89 325i with sun faded paint but otherwise in amazing condition. I was suspect that it had been in a front end accident because of missing caulking on the front fenders. He assured me it had never been in an accident and we proceeded to have it looked at by a local body shop. The body shop guy (owner) told me it looked like a very honest car and looked like it had never been in a serious accident. So I told the guy I would buy it. After all this trouble I find out that this guy has the original title but it is in the old owners name (not his). I told him that I needed my bill of sale to match the original title; again, didn't want to drive 2500 miles and then find out my paperwork wasnt in line. We made arrangements to go to the DMV to see if we could work something out to get the paperwork quicker. However, the day that I went out to look at the car one last time before going to the DMV I took extra time to look over the car and decided to listen to my gut feeling and walk away from the deal. The paperwork wasn't in line, and frankly I didn't trust the opinion of the body guy. I knew that from the factory that body lines should be even on all sides and there were some differences between panels that I did not feel comfortable about; the broken caulking sealed the deal for me, there should be no reason why both fenders had to have been removed.

    14 days in, my car rental costs were stocking up, I was overstaying my welcome on the couch, and I was really wondering how long it would take to find what I was looking for. At this point I had just returned my rental car. An ad came up for a alpine 1987 BMW 325is. I asked my friends GF if she could drive me, little did I know with traffic this was a 3 hour drive.
    When I got there, I knew this was the car. After looking at it for a couple minutes, all vin numbers matched, all caulking around the body was intact, the car lived its whole life on the same street owned by two different people, 24 years by the original owner who was German, and the next two year by a Mexican family. Carfax was clean, unmolested, and original title in hand. This ad had been up for only few hours, and the guy had already received multiple calls; luckily I was the first one to arrive.

    I left a deposit, and planned to go eat lunch and be back with the money slightly later, however I was too excited and returned with a Whopper, fries, drink and money in hand.





    The car generally was in no shape to make it 2500 miles. The front end felt loose, it had a blown front shock, and it was slightly overheating. Keep in mind I came direct from Austria, I have none of my tools with me and no garage to work in.

    JMP let me swing by and diagnose some of my problems, they were super awesome and lent out their time free of charge. To get to their shop I had to drive with the heat on full blast in stop and go LA traffic, during a summer day. When I got there I was sweating buckets. Essentially I was having the heater core act as an additional mini radiator.

    We determined the fan clutch was fine, the thermostat wasn't to blame and that was all we could determine for the day.

    I went to BMAparts and got myself two lem control arms, two tie rods, control arm bushings, one shock insert, and thermostat.

    I suspected the slight overheating issue was due to the rad, and found that JFarhanbod was selling an early rad in the area. When I got there we popped my old one out and put his in, after running a hose through my old radiator it was apparent that it severely clogged. This fixed the problem completely.

    In hindsight it may not have been optimal timing but my girlfriend came down to see SoCal.

    JFarhanbod was a really helpful and awesome guy, honestly one of the coolest guys I have met. He offered his tools for me to attempt to change the control arms, bushings and tierods. Having left my GF at a shopping center earlier in the day I zoomed down to tackle the job. We quickly realized that doing this job on the street with basic tools (think crescent wrench) was not a smart idea. We managed to change one control arm and press in one bushing. At this point it was getting very late and my GF was still at the shopping center, and frankly we hadnt finished the job 100% on that control arm. One of the ball joint nuts wasnt anywhere near torqued properly.

    I picked up my GF and decided I was going to pay someone to do this work for me. This is when I found MR325, they banged out the job in one day and made sure everything was done right for $200 + alignment.

    So there we were: cars main issues were resolved, no more overheating, no more lose front end, no more blown shock. We spent the rest of the week sightseeing much of SoCal and decided to head out for our trip.

    The day we were leaving I decided to put new tires on the car because the old ones were low on tread and generally old. $290 got me four falken 912's mounted and balanced. Little did I know this place was brand new and sucked ass (for a lack of a better term). Their machine didnt have the right attachment to balance my tire, and their air gauge was way out of spec. They noted that my PSI was likely 10 under then what their gauge showed. When I got to the next gas station and checked the pressure I was 15 OVER not 10 under. When they mounted the new tires they used new valves, one of which leaked, which I quickly found out at said gas station. Luckily the caps from my old valves were the sealing type and that held the pressure in for the remainder of the trip.







    This is the part I should mention that the car didn't have a functioning AC. We literally drove the whole trip with the windows rolled down. The faster we went the better it felt:



    Some temperatures we experienced:


    Wrap it for protection!:



    Vegas:




    Utah:



    Feels good to sleep in a king sized bed when you sleep on a couch weeks on end:


    Growing up I had lived in 4 states and 6 cities. Of those places I had lived in Denver, Iowa city, Davenport. All three of which we would be traveling through. We made it a point to stop and see my childhood home in Denver.

    Somewhere near the Iowa border in Nebraska, the E30 began making some gnarly engine sounds, it almost sounded like rod knock. We decided that if we were going to make it we needed to cut out unnecessary detours. So we decided to skip one of my childhood homes in Iowa city only as chance would have it we broke down in DAVENPORT where I also grew up. Of the three places this is where I had spent most of my childhood. The last I had seen davenport was when I was in ~grade 6, so it was very nostalgic, weird, and surreal to be there in the situation that I was in.



    That is when I made this thread:



    Turns out that gnarly noise was actually the waterpump bearing:



    On the hottest day ever recorded in Iowa, just after the "world largest truck stop" on route 80, the bearing gave way and coolant shot out. Luckily I was able to dive into the shoulder before any significant overheating occurred. Luckily again I had AAA, and got a free tow to the local BMW dealership. At this point I had no idea where or why the coolant had blown out. Luckily I got a free diagnosis from the dealership because I told them they might as well do the cooling system recall that had not been done. I rented a room at a super 8 and waited for the verdict.

    There was a guy at the dealership who owned an E30 and worked as a tech and told me for certain that it was the waterpump. He however also told me he couldnt do side work or he would get fired. Thats when I was slammed with a near $800 bill to do the waterpump. It was either Thursday or Friday, and they said they could not get the new parts in until Monday.

    Facing a $800 bill + $60/night x 4 nights bill I decided to ask for the parts list so I could order my own parts from the advanced auto parts across the street from the dealership. The service guy informed me that it was against policy to provide me part numbers. I called his bluff and told him I already have a copy of the work order they want to charge me with the part numbers and that I had simply misplaced it and wanted another copy. He again refused, so I went and found that lost paper in my trunk.



    I told them not to do any work on my car. I went to advanced auto parts and told them my story. THIS is where the real story begins, I found the most kind hearted people in the world, of all places a advanced auto parts in davenport. They began calling their list of shop clients and asking for favors to give us a discounted rate for the job. I ordered my parts and left to the local mall. They had placed a rush order on the waterpump which made it come in only a couple hours later. When I got back they were still calling and asking for favors. Most shops in Davenport have never worked on BMW's and are scared at the notion of working on one, however there were a couple that were willing to tackle the job.

    That night that specific advanced auto parts was having a car meet in their parking lot. They invited us to swing by to check it out, so we did. WITHOUT ASKING another advanced auto parts employee had come in for work and came over to us in the parking lot to ask us our story, so we told him. He then proceeded to go over to the microphone where they were playing music and told the audience our story, to which people began giving out of pocket to pay for the parts. We were shocked, humbled, amazed, and speechless, one guy even gave $100. We tried refusing the money but they had already collected it and insisted.
    In the same crowd an older couple approached us and offered their home, garage, tools, and dinner. The guy spent his whole life working on domestic cars but was willing to tackle the timing belt/tensioner/waterpump job with me.

    That same advanced auto parts employee who spoke on the microphone also worked part time as a tow truck driver and wanted to call in a favor to provide a free tow to get it to the aforementioned house. I refused and told him I had AAA.
    Apparently it is against AAA policy to tow off of dealer property unless they are unable to do the work or they release it. Since they began no work, and it was sitting outside in their publicly accessible lot and it was after hours, I told them that indeed they were unable to do the job (which was true because they couldn't get the parts until Monday). The AAA truck arrived and we got the tow.

    That night the older couple took us out to dinner, insisted on paying, gave us one of their bedrooms and cooked us breakfest, and even picked up the other parts that had come in before we had even woken up. The next morning me and the gentlemen began tackling the job:









    Midway we realized we had the wrong waterpump, not because advanced auto parts made an error, or because I made an error, but because the dealership made an error, they listed the newer style waterpump on the work order. So if I had the work done at the dealer the parts would have come in monday and then I would have likely had to wait until Tuesday.

    When we called advanced auto parts to get the correct waterpump, the same guy who was on the microphone and offered a tow personally drove out to another advanced auto parts location over an hour away to get me the correct waterpump, and delivered it to the house.

    My GF once asked me where my favorite place to live was. On top of the 4 states and 6 cities in the USA I had also lived in chile, UK, France, Lithuania, and many other places. Years ago I told her it was Iowa. There is not much to see, but I told her that Iowa has the nicest people. She is now a believer. Prior to going to advanced auto parts a guy from another shop in the same plaza even ran after me to see if he could help me get in contact with a shop that could do the job even after his shop had said they couldn't do it.

    We knocked the job out by mid afternoon. At which point it was time to say our farewells and finish our trip.

    We got to Detroit after midnight and went to the wrong crossing. By wrong I mean the tunnel crossing does not do car exports, only the bridge location does it. When we got to the tunnel location we asked an officer if we were in the right place, to which he rudely and angrily replied that we were in the wrong place. To this day I think that officer was retarded, not in a mean way, as in I think he had some level of mental retardation. My GF thinks he was just having a bad day, but to me he seemed inept to be an officer.

    We began our trip to the bridge location and began realizing there was something wrong. Highway entrances were closed, and shortly after we were in the downtown area we reluctantly asked for direction because our GPS was not getting reception between the high rise buildings. Little did we know, the bridge location was under construction (yet still open). Once we got out of the downtown area we had to drive through very ghetto parts of Detroit in the middle of the night to get to the bridge location. When we finally found where we were supposed to go we noticed that the new export area was actually a spot under an unlit bridge, surrounded by a fence. When you entered the first set of fences you could not see any buildings nor any officers. We entered the first set of fences, which then closed behind us and hoped there was someone watching a camera somewhere to open the next set of fences. Luckily after waiting a minute the next set of fences opened.

    We had finally made it home after 2500 miles and 7 days:


    Although the work I did on the car over the winter Is another story in and of itself this is the work I have done over the winter:

    Re-installed stock radio
    Removed aftermarket alarm
    Antenna gourmet
    Euro smileys
    Bilstein HD shocks (car has factory m-tech springs that I retained)
    173 ECU
    New odo gears
    Derlin shifter carrier bushings
    AKG DSSR
    Both Transmission seals
    Engine mounts
    Transmission mounts
    Strut mounts front and back
    Glove box handle/lock
    Exhaust hangers middle and back
    Catback gasket x2 + header to midpipe gasket
    CV boots inner and outer
    OEM Subframe bushings
    OEM Trailing arm bushings
    Shifter joint
    OEM Differential mount
    OEM Diff Gasket
    Sway bar links front and back
    Oil filter housing plug (revised design from the dealer)
    T-fitting for the spray nozzles
    New wipers
    Shifter boots (the actual boot and the rubber boot below it)
    Thermostat
    Radiator
    Window regulator
    Door seal
    Trail light seal
    Guibo
    CSB
    New fluids front to back (diff, transmission, engine, coolant, etc).
    Time-sert kit for the oil drain plug
    Turn signal stalk
    Rear sway bar links
    Spark plugs (NGK)
    Reverse light switch
    Fuel pump
    Fuel filter
    Distributor cap
    Distributor rotor
    Ignition wires
    Valve cover vent hose
    Coolant hose (from thermostat housing to throttle body)
    Tool kit for the trunk
    AFM
    O2 sensor
    Gas funnel rubber surround
    New group 49 battery (and proper venting)
    All new bulbs all around
    Coolant to heatercore outlet hose
    I am sure I am forgetting some stuff, the above is all I can recall off the top of my head.

    I was lucky to be able to rent a two car garage during my senior year of university to be able to complete all this work:

    Last edited by noid; 08-17-2013, 11:06 AM.
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    #2
    That is one of the most amazing stories I've read in a while, in fact reading this sort of thing always restores my faith in humanity. It's really incredible how many people came together to help you get back home. The car looks great, and I'm sure feeling great after all that work.
    1992 325ic, Alpine over Indigo.

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      #3
      AWESOME story. thanks for sharing that! I'm from Chicago, so I can attest that all of us from the midwest are a little retarded.

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        #4
        Now that's quite a story. Glad you made it back safe. You did not say how much you picked up the car for.
        "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

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          #5
          Pretty awesome story! Glad to be a part of it.
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            #6
            Kind of humbling to hear how generous the people in Iowa were.

            [Dad mode: on]That said, when was the timing belt last changed prior to you setting out on your trip? Seems like quite a crapshoot to embark on a 2500 mile drive with minor maintenance on an aging M20. More than likely the timing belt and water pump would be replaced at the same time unless the PO was being overly thrifty.

            IMO two things you should have spares of would be a crank position sensor and fuel pump. Those things, if they go bad in the middle of a long trip, will be exceedingly difficult to source in corn country.

            Originally posted by whysimon
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              #7
              Originally posted by reelizmpro View Post
              Now that's quite a story. Glad you made it back safe. You did not say how much you picked up the car for.
              Just over 2k, which I thought was a hell of a deal for an all numbers matching car.

              Initially I made the trip to find ANY E30 that fit my criteria; no rust, no accident, all vins matching on body panels and all intact caulking. I looked at all years and models. My plan was to get it back home to do a m60 swap.

              When I found this E30 though, I couldn't come to grips with tearing it apart to do a swap. I have chosen to keep it original. I still plan on doing an M60 swap, just not in this E30.


              Originally posted by FredK View Post
              Kind of humbling to hear how generous the people in Iowa were.

              [Dad mode: on]That said, when was the timing belt last changed prior to you setting out on your trip? Seems like quite a crapshoot to embark on a 2500 mile drive with minor maintenance on an aging M20. More than likely the timing belt and water pump would be replaced at the same time unless the PO was being overly thrifty.

              IMO two things you should have spares of would be a crank position sensor and fuel pump. Those things, if they go bad in the middle of a long trip, will be exceedingly difficult to source in corn country.
              The seller said he had changed the timing belt only months before I bought it. When we pulled the waterpump, we did find that the timing belt looked new-ish. I think the Bentley calls for a waterpump change every two belt changes, so he probably took that as a point to skip changing it.

              If I had come direct from Canada I would have brought all my tools with me. I can do all the work myself as long as I am properly equipped.

              I recommend for anyone to embark on such a trip. Whats the worst that can happen anyways on such a trip? You blow a waterpump and have to do a timing belt change in corn country? :D

              Realistically the worst case scenario, you throw a rod and you uship it the rest of the way home. Chances of something that catastrophic happening is minimal, so it should never stop someone from taking this type of trip.

              A fuel pump and CPS wouldnt be that hard to get in the midwest, if the part stores couldnt get one to you in a day, the local BMW dealership could. Breakdowns on such a trip arent about the parts, thats the simple part, its the diagnosis, resources and time to fix the problem.

              Which reminds me: When the advanced auto parts employees were having a hard time finding a shop that wanted to tackle the job in the area, they told me worst case scenario if they couldnt find someone willing to do the job for a reasonable rate that they would offer their back lot and their tools (the ones they sell) for me to do the job, and to return them after I was done. Crazy how helpful these people were.
              Last edited by noid; 08-17-2013, 11:06 AM.
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                #8
                Autozone in CA won't even loan you an OBDII scanner anymore. They barely help installing the new battery you just bought from them. This makes your story that much more amazing. Sounds like you got a solid car and I'm sure you'll treat it right. You just got home and most of the car's needs have already been addressed. I'm not much of a swap guy, so I'm glad you are sticking with the M20. These cars are classics and really do deserve some level of preservation.
                "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                  #9
                  I have made a grave mistake, the place wasn't autozone it was Advanced auto parts!
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by noid View Post
                    I recommend for anyone to embark on such a trip. Whats the worst that can happen anyways on such a trip? You blow a waterpump and have to do a timing belt change in corn country? :D
                    The trip, aside from the mechanical problems, sounded awesome. It's great to take road trips and to see what's out there! Also, I'm sure the waterpump going south made you new friends and made the trip really memorable.

                    Originally posted by whysimon
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                      #11
                      OP has some serious balls to drive newly acquired e30 2500 miles. Glad you made it :up:

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by FredK View Post
                        The trip, aside from the mechanical problems, sounded awesome. It's great to take road trips and to see what's out there! Also, I'm sure the waterpump going south made you new friends and made the trip really memorable.
                        It was one hell of a trip, prior to embarking on this, I had been in Europe since May. By the time I went to LA I had already spent time in Lithuania, Austria, Slovania, and Croatia. Essentially I had been sleeping on a couch the whole time I was in Europe.

                        A bed never felt so good when we had to rent motel rooms during our trip!

                        For me this whole adventure lasted May-August. My GF caught the tail-end of my shenanigans for the drive home.
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                          #13
                          That's an excellent story! Very awesome experience in davenport.
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                            #14
                            Wow! That really is a great story, OP. It's really amazing the scope of human kindness...

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                              #15
                              I bought my first e30 in LA and drove it back to Buffalo on a similar trip. Luckily I didn't have any of the mishaps you did, but the trip itself was one of the best things I've ever done. I'll remember it forever. Nothing like bonding with a new car over ~3000 miles.
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