Oh Shit...Shit...Shit...BMW Has Done It Now...

[chuckybob]

So all that equals this:

it seems that its basicly $300,000 for a bodykit. fuck that.

it certainly doesnt seem to be worth 300 grand.

youve got about

$41,000 for the car
$3,000 for the wing (at most)
$10,000 lets say for the stroker conversion and/or bore
$0 for stripping the car to the bones
$3,000 high estimate for the roll cage
$1,200 high estimate for the seat, wheel, and pedals
$20,000 let's say for the suspension
$2,000 high estimate for the pin stripes
$20,000 for the tires, rims, and 1-lugs
and lets say $10,000 for miscellaneous parts for things like the fuel and electrical system.


all that adds up to about $110,000. im pretty damn sure that the widebody kit isn't worth $190,000. maybe the body is entirely carbon fiber?

[Ben Carufel]

it certainly doesnt seem to be worth 300 grand.

youve got about

$41,000 for the car
$3,000 for the wing (at most)
$10,000 lets say for the stroker conversion and/or bore
$0 for stripping the car to the bones
$3,000 high estimate for the roll cage
$1,200 high estimate for the seat, wheel, and pedals
$20,000 let's say for the suspension
$2,000 high estimate for the pin stripes
$20,000 for the tires, rims, and 1-lugs
and lets say $10,000 for miscellaneous parts for things like the fuel and electrical system.


all that adds up to about $110,000. im pretty damn sure that the widebody kit isn't worth $190,000. maybe the body is entirely carbon fiber?

LOL. Wow. You are just a fucking genius, aren't you?

Quoted so you can always look back and see just how little you know about race car construction.

[e30Matt]

it certainly doesnt seem to be worth 300 grand.

youve got about

$41,000 for the car
$3,000 for the wing (at most)
$10,000 lets say for the stroker conversion and/or bore
$0 for stripping the car to the bones
$3,000 high estimate for the roll cage
$1,200 high estimate for the seat, wheel, and pedals
$20,000 let's say for the suspension
$2,000 high estimate for the pin stripes
$20,000 for the tires, rims, and 1-lugs
and lets say $10,000 for miscellaneous parts for things like the fuel and electrical system.


all that adds up to about $110,000. im pretty damn sure that the widebody kit isn't worth $190,000. maybe the body is entirely carbon fiber?

The way prices are going on the new M5s, you can add the leftover $190k in dealer markup. :(

[Bavarian3]

Your prices are way off, in fact BMW prices are correct.

If you factor in all the time and money that goes into a motorsport shell and chassi then you realize that it's worth the money spent.

The cage is up to FIA specs (and probably beyond that) the chassis is a BMW MOTORSPORT chassi, meaning it's not an off the shelf product.

Your $41 for the base price of the MCoupe is way off. Expect to see at least around $50-$55k, if not more.

I am sure BMW Motorsport did extensive wind tunnel testing with the car... and the suspension is probably adjustable out the ass.

So is the car worth $300k? Yes. Don't forget you are going to have factory support and engineerings (lets say) at your disposal....

I have to put my order in...

[Ben Carufel]

Your prices are way off, in fact BMW prices are correct.

If you factor in all the time and money that goes into a motorsport shell and chassi then you realize that it's worth the money spent.

The cage is up to FIA specs (and probably beyond that) the chassis is a BMW MOTORSPORT chassi, meaning it's not an off the shelf product.

Your $41 for the base price of the MCoupe is way off. Expect to see at least around $50-$55k, if not more.

I am sure BMW Motorsport did extensive wind tunnel testing with the car... and the suspension is probably adjustable out the ass.

So is the car worth $300k? Yes. Don't forget you are going to have factory support and engineerings (lets say) at your disposal....

I have to put my order in...

Be quiet Michael, everyone knows that you could just buy a stock Z4 M Coupe and put an Erebuni widebody kit on it and be competitive with the Motorsport Z4 M Coupe.

[The Fast One!]

did i ever mention i love you ben. ;)

and that car of course.

[Jon325i]

it certainly doesnt seem to be worth 300 grand.

youve got about

$41,000 for the car
$3,000 for the wing (at most)
$10,000 lets say for the stroker conversion and/or bore
$0 for stripping the car to the bones
$3,000 high estimate for the roll cage
$1,200 high estimate for the seat, wheel, and pedals
$20,000 let's say for the suspension
$2,000 high estimate for the pin stripes
$20,000 for the tires, rims, and 1-lugs
and lets say $10,000 for miscellaneous parts for things like the fuel and electrical system.


all that adds up to about $110,000. im pretty damn sure that the widebody kit isn't worth $190,000. maybe the body is entirely carbon fiber?

Huh? You're comparing a modified street car to a fully prepared race car. Might as well extol on the similarities of a chunk of quartz rock to a blade of grass. Congrats on managing to shoehorn your entire foot into your mouth.

There's a reason for why this car sports the price tag it does. Its called development work. This takes time, and in motorsports time is BIG MONEY. Not to mention a lot of the changes made are done by hand....there's no automated rollcage assembly line here. In addition to this, there could be a spares package included with the car (Porsche does this for their factory Cup Cars).....such suspension and brake components, a spare gearbox, extra wheels and tires. What you get when buying one of goes well beyond what you see on the surface (a la body kit, wing, and motorsport stripes).

Jon

[BimmerToad]

A lot of the cost is doing to FIA testing and certification, tons of research and development of the chassis, suspension, engine, etc. and I'm sure some of the cost pays for spare parts. Beat that Erebuni/GC/Autopower!

edit: 3k for a motorsport roll cage?!? MAYBE in parts, but how about the FEA analysis used on cage construction, FIA certification, paying a competent welder, etc.

[bmw_e30]

No, not really. I've been told by a couple of people that own them that it's a lot like an early 911, very tail happy and sensitive to lift throttle.

-Charlie

Its mid-engined. Like all MR cars like it: MR2/Boxster/Esprit/348/355/NSX/Etc. once it goes into oversteer, it's almost over unless you have plenty of tire patch or are very familier with the car.

I was just at Buttonwillow this weekend tracking the E36 M3 and there were a few Elise's driven by veteren driver's all with no problems.

I do know that the Mk1 Elise's were more of a handful at the limit than the Mk2 ones.

[Digitalwave]

I love r3v.

[The Fast One!]

I love r3v.

+1

[Charlie]

LOL. Wow. You are just a fucking genius, aren't you?

I think simply reading his sig pic answers any questions there.

-Charlie

[Beej '86 325es]

Elise / Exiges are so friggin' small. My friend is a lanky 6'5". It took him literally 10 minutes to get into the car, and then most of his head was above the windshield. :)

[permit]

Yeah, no matter what you're size, they're pretty hard to climb into. There's that ten inches of door jam that you have to straddle, then in one graceful move, you have to push off with your left foot and get it inside the car while simultaneously sliding down into the seat. It takes practice.

[DEV0 E30]

That Z4 looks down right menacing from the front angle.

I hadn't heard it was tail happy Charlie, but that just makes me want to drive it more to find out... but it's in storage in Clarksville and the owner isn't going to be back from Iraq for awhile. It was sensative to throttle though, quick little SOB. I love it.