torque or horsepower

[digger]

Why am I beating 650+hp cars with my measly 550hp....?
Am I doing something wrong ? If the car with the most HP is faster. Period WTF..?

I'll keep my torque and you number crunching nerds can continue your argument.

if your mass is the same or heavier it is simple you obvious have more real hp available at the speeds you race at.

without knowing more details it is not known the whether the car with higher peak hp is peakier delivery, not geared properly, doesn't actually make more hp, has no traction etc etc.

professional racers crunch the numbers to optimise everything so dissing physics and maths is plain ignorance all the top race teams do it

[digger]

Anytime man.



They are still relative pending gear ratio. His car peaks more TQ than HP, but has a long final drive.

a flat hp curve can easily beat a peaky hp curve with higher peak. area under the curve....

[Good & Tight]

if your mass is the same or heavier it is simple you obvious have more real hp available at the speeds you race at.

without knowing more details it is not known the whether the car with higher peak hp is peakier delivery, not geared properly, doesn't actually make more hp, has no traction etc etc.

professional racers crunch the numbers to optimise everything so dissing physics and maths is plain ignorance all the top race teams do it

I'm note dissing mate, just having fun, carry on.

[ForcedFirebird]

are you sure it is 300ft/lb and not 300in/lb. impact will do 300ft/lb.

Trust me, it's foot. It wouldn't rip out of my hands when the hole saw catches if it were in/lb. Companies have come out with even heavier drills that are well over 700+ft/lb. You can literally chuck it on something solid, stand on it and it will spin you around. Hell, guys use them to power their pit bikes at the track...

http://www.dpxsystems.com/drill-powered-bike-toolbox-wheelchair-hd/

I am well aware of impacts, we have one at my shop that is 900ft/lb@175psi, and little battery powered ones that will do 100in/lb.

[digger]

I'm note dissing mate, just having fun, carry on.

if you want to find out why you beat some other cars will need a dyno graph, gear box ratio, diff ratio, tyre size for both cars. you can plot hp vs mph for both and that will probably reveal it

[dsphil]

Trust me, it's foot. It wouldn't rip out of my hands when the hole saw catches if it were in/lb. Companies have come out with even heavier drills that are well over 700+ft/lb. You can literally chuck it on something solid, stand on it and it will spin you around. Hell, guys use them to power their pit bikes at the track...

http://www.dpxsystems.com/drill-powered-bike-toolbox-wheelchair-hd/

I am well aware of impacts, we have one at my shop that is 900ft/lb@175psi, and little battery powered ones that will do 100in/lb.

LOL.. faster than eta..

[GillesBigCowboy]

Horsepower etymology is romantic, but my internal dyno has a narrow, philosophical, and experiential preference for torque.

[ForcedFirebird]

LOL.. faster than eta..

HAHA! Looked on a box, guess it is in/lb They don't say what gear, though, and the heavy duty drills in low will rip out of your hands easily. Not nice when they hit you in the face, either...

[digger]

Horsepower etymology is romantic, but my internal dyno has a narrow, philosophical, and experiential preference for torque.

i prefer acceleration myself

[LJ851]

if you want to find out why you beat some other cars will need a dyno graph, gear box ratio, diff ratio, tyre size for both cars. you can plot hp vs mph for both and that will probably reveal it

Yes. Its all about how much rotational torque the ground sees from the tire divided by vehicle mass. It doesn't take much extra to walk away from somebody.

[Good & Tight]

if you want to find out why you beat some other cars will need a dyno graph, gear box ratio, diff ratio, tyre size for both cars. you can plot hp vs mph for both and that will probably reveal it

Here's my last dyno with a 3.73 gear 235/60/15 tire and 265 gear box.

[Dtmevo3]

Only 384ft lbs torque jeeze as if that is not much lol

[digger]

Here's my last dyno with a 3.73 gear 235/60/15 tire and 265 gear box.

ill plot some stuff out this weekend i cant see linked pics on this computer

[tom d]

[QUOTE=digger;4072072]
a 900hp 250ft-lb F1 car would spank a 600hp 600lb-ft F1 car everyday of the week.[qoute]

while I get your point, this is probably the most ridiculous statement made in this tread.

one more time; torque is real and can be measured scientifically, horsepower is a made up term and can only be calculated.

we buy horsepower, but we drive torque!

[digger]

[QUOTE=tom d;4072352]

a 900hp 250ft-lb F1 car would spank a 600hp 600lb-ft F1 car everyday of the week.[qoute]

while I get your point, this is probably the most ridiculous statement made in this tread.

one more time; torque is real and can be measured scientifically, horsepower is a made up term and can only be calculated.

we buy horsepower, but we drive torque!

so you measure torque "scientifically" and you measure rpm "scientifically" and anything done with those two bits of data suddenly becomes nonsense....right what were you saying about ridiculous?