So Why exactly are you modding your car???

[delatlanta1281]

to get chicks

To get laughed at by chicks.

[Dave]

No doubt this thread was inspired by Heeter's being time-out-ed for slamming Jeremy about his THR CAB's, and I also have no doubt that he'll read this thread long before he's allowed back, so I know before I say it that probably everything I've written here will be classified by him and others as me being a ricer, or whatever you want to call it. Frankly, I don't really care.

Its not about you, Josh. And Ricer isnt the word, its Poser.

Its not about Heeter at all, either.

Its a legitimate question that came to me over the weekend.

[Jand3rson]

Eh, you're right Dave. Got a little ahead of myself, I guess.

And I guess I'm still trying to understand why the option of modding your car for fun wasn't on the list of options, and why it appears that you think that everything done to a car has to be for pure functional value, and why you're considered a "poser" if it's not. I just don't agree is all.

[Dave]

I'm just wondering what the real motive behind it was.

I JUST TOLD YOU WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS!

And I guess I'm still trying to understand why the option of modding your car for fun wasn't on the list of options, and why it appears that you think that everything done to a car has to be for pure functional value, and why you're considered a "poser" if it's not.

If it has no function, then why do it? Why put harsh control arm bushings or stiff shocks on your car if you are going to bitch about the ride?

Or even better, why put a splitter that has ZERO aerodynamic value on your lip at all, othen than to be a ricer/poser?

Look, I'm not telling you or anyone what to do with their cars. Do what you want. I was just curious as to what people's motivations were. There are a lot of sheep around here.

Jeremy's whining about the Treehouse CABs is just an example of what I see sometimes as people making mods for no good reason other than to say they did it or put them on their Car Domain page. Its a fucking racing part - it is going to be harsh perhaps and that is something to bitch about?

[Jand3rson]

(I edited my post, reflecting that you were right about it not being about me)

I for one love the ride that my shocks and springs give. Yeah, it's a little stiff, but I'm by no means complaining. I love it. And I know that I'M not planning on using the THR arms, for the same reasons you listed. And I ditched the splitter idea a long time ago, Heeter was right about that for sure.

I agree with you Dave, there are a lot of sheep. I just jumped the gun and got defensive, sorry about that. :up:

But I still don't agree that if something doesn't have a performance function to it, it shouldn't be done. There are a lot of things that are done purely for looks, which isn't a bad thing. It's when people mod their cars with performance/fucntional parts with NO INTENTION of getting those benefits from them, that they're a poser.

[kylebes1]

My e30 was a major POS so all the parts I replaced were necessary, I always wanted to track it, though.

[Dave]

It's when people mod their cars with performance/fucntional parts with NO INTENTION of getting those benefits from them, that they're a poser.

Bingo

[Intense]

I'm just trying to get my car into proper running order, as defined by me. I like my cars with somewhat stiff suspensions. My point of reference is my s2000, which has an amazing suspension...I love how it rides and handles driving around. Admittedly, it's a little soft for track usage. But I spend about 1% of my time on track.

Got a little off tangent. My car is not in the best of shape. So as I go thru and replace worn or broken parts, I'll prbably replace stuff with aftermarket parts since they are cheaper (and probably more durable) that the OEM parts.

For example, my rear subframe and control arm bushings are shot. I could go with OEM and pay a couple hundred $$$, or flyingbrick has some nice urethane ones for $40...guess which ones I'm getting. It comes down to simple economics for me. If I can get a better part out of it, even better

[kylebes1]

It comes down to simple economics for me. If I can get a better part out of it, even better

Werd brother

[E30 Wagen]

I mod my car for several reasons:

1. To upgrade worn-out parts
2. To be safer, faster and more enjoyable on quiet country roads
3. To be a fun, safe car to drive on the track
4. To be an aesthetic standout against all the stock E30s in my area (not many E30s here though)

I mod all my cars in different ways, but they've all got to achieve two things: look good and be fun to drive.

About sums it up.

[Justin B]

I chose "rob" cause thats the closest to "other" and thats because stock e30's suck donkey balls. I do actually use the modifications though whenever I can get to the fun roads..I dont autox or track my car at this point. I have a kart for that purpose, I just have fun with my car, nothing crazy though.

[Iain]

I really crack the shits when people put race, or performance, parts on their cars and then complain that they wear out faster than OEM ones, or that their car isn't as comfortable to drive.

I have had parts of my car rebuilt so that it strikes a balance between road and track. Its soft enough to absorb the bumps on my fave twisty road and not throw the car's handling balance out to shit.

I will be modding the motor, but I love my car's stock M20B25's characteristics right now, especially the power delivery and torque. Its got enough grunt to let me use the chassis' light weight to my advantage, especially in the wet, and I LOVE driving my car on a twisty road in the wet, where you can use the E30's inherent balance and well set-up chassis to really travel quickly while other, more powerful cars, have to take it easy.

[Purdue89E30]

How about an option that says "to make my car more fun? Or one that says "so I like it more"

I mod my car because I like it and I want to make it better. To me aesthetics are just as important as performance, what's wrong with that? If they weren't why would companies make different looking cars? Why would anybody give a shit about guys named Chris Bangle or Pininfarina? I'm tired of the race guys dumping on anything that has aesthetic value going on cars, it's perfectly leitimate to take some pride in the outward look of your vehicle. To me it's about balance, a great car should look as good as it performs; this is what made Ferarris legendary.

Everybody is too quick to call others "ricers", there are things that set ricers apart from people who do aesthetic rather than functional upgrades to their cars:
1) Obviously poor taste, usually gaudy and tacky
2) Mods that are meant to look purely functional but serve no purpose at all, e.g. aluminum wings which add nothing beauty to the car and in fact clash with it but also serve no aerodynamic purpose.
3) Low quality, stupid and "ghetto" mods. Like coffee can exhaust tips or cut springs.

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[hamann318is]

If it has no function, then why do it? Why put harsh control arm bushings or stiff shocks on your car if you are going to bitch about the ride?

Or even better, why put a splitter that has ZERO aerodynamic value on your lip at all, othen than to be a ricer/poser?

Dave, it's my theory that most people go through the phase. You start out with the simple stuff... springs and shocks, and then you like the result. Then you figure you can get more and more until you usually realize that most of the crap you bought was a waste of time. It occured to me that most of the mods I've done serve no real purpose, and I really don't want them anymore. Hell, Heeter did the same thing.

A lot of people are doing it for a bigger mod list, and it doesn't really make sense. I like a simple stock car with better suspension and a bit more punch. Namely, a chip and suspension. The cost of throwing new springs and shocks on the car is no where near as much as the benefit of having a better to drive car. I can see your point with the lights and such though. Some people like them - I did - but I think the cost of getting/having them isn't worth it anymore.

Oh well, I guess I'll just practice moderation next time and call it a day.

[Jand3rson]

Dave, it's my theory that most people go through the phase. You start out with the simple stuff... springs and shocks, and then you like the result. Then you figure you can get more and more until you usually realize that most of the crap you bought was a waste of time. It occured to me that most of the mods I've done serve no real purpose, and I really don't want them anymore. Hell, Heeter did the same thing.

A lot of people are doing it for a bigger mod list, and it doesn't really make sense. I like a simple stock car with better suspension and a bit more punch. Namely, a chip and suspension. The cost of throwing new springs and shocks on the car is no where near as much as the benefit of having a better to drive car. I can see your point with the lights and such though. Some people like them - I did - but I think the cost of getting/having them isn't worth it anymore.

Very well put. I got to the point where all I wanted to do was buy all this shit for my car that I didn't really want that much, pretty much because it was there. I realized I was being retarded, and started to settle back down, looking towards parts and mods that I really want and think would be good for my car, rather than what everyone else has or thinks is cool.