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    #46
    Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
    Maybe this will help to put things into some sort of perspective for others. I want a Porsche. Am I willing to shell out at least 30k to get a basic Porsche 911 or spend similar money and get a E30 M3 that has pedigree, racing history and is a willing and amazingly balanced car? For some, they still want the Porsche, for others is easy. Theres more people willing to spend money on these analog cars and the E30 is definitely on the radar. EIG has made an awesome business that finds the top notch examples and charges a premium for it. They have a great business model and Im quite jealous of them.

    So in short, yes the market is changing. Buy your E30 now
    don't forget tho.....the 911 racing pedigree is HUGE...and when driven well, is quite quick. Ever drive a sorted 911?....its quite the car. Id take one over most e30M cars....jus sayin
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      #47
      Originally posted by 0-60 freak View Post
      Forget what I think? but yet you will tell me what you think...haha, I would give 14k for it in a heartbeat, rip it apart and drop a x54 in it
      wasn't meant as YOU...but moreso as you.......I mean it wasn't personal.....truly.

      y are u often involved in little pissing stuff?
      I love sitting down and just driving!

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        #48
        flyboy....

        yup....very well said
        I love sitting down and just driving!

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          #49
          Originally posted by JRKOUPE View Post
          wasn't meant as YOU...but moreso as you.......I mean it wasn't personal.....truly.

          y are u often involved in little pissing stuff?
          Did you not see the "haha" ...or are you refering to the guy who said i had more money than brains? Either way....im on here for the love of e30's and to collect information and converse withquality people that share the love.....thanks

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            #50
            Originally posted by JRKOUPE View Post
            don't forget tho.....the 911 racing pedigree is HUGE...and when driven well, is quite quick. Ever drive a sorted 911?....its quite the car. Id take one over most e30M cars....jus sayin
            I agree with you, its why I want one, but how much does a well sorted 911 cost VS a well sorted E30? Its not apples to apples comparison, I realize that, Im just saying that people who have the money to spend on a decent 911 can build a pretty awesome E30
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              #51
              Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
              I agree with you, its why I want one, but how much does a well sorted 911 cost VS a well sorted E30? Its not apples to apples comparison, I realize that, Im just saying that people who have the money to spend on a decent 911 can build a pretty awesome E30
              I have some nice "off the shelf" cars that anyone can obtain....they just arnt filling the desire anymore....I love the fact that if you want a e30 that puts a smile on your face , its has to be built!

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              1989 E30 M3 (SOLD AWAITING SHIPPING)

              On Order:
              2018 DODGE DEMON

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              S54 DRIVETRAIN
              E30 DASH
              E30 PARTS

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                #52
                Originally posted by 0-60 freak View Post
                Did you not see the "haha" ...or are you refering to the guy who said i had more money than brains? Either way....im on here for the love of e30's and to collect information and converse withquality people that share the love.....thanks

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                I'm not sure...lol


                we are good tho.
                I love sitting down and just driving!

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
                  I agree with you, its why I want one, but how much does a well sorted 911 cost VS a well sorted E30? Its not apples to apples comparison, I realize that, Im just saying that people who have the money to spend on a decent 911 can build a pretty awesome E30
                  most folks that are looking to buy a 911 are not in the e30 market....u know that right?.....that's a bit of a silly thing to say.

                  I loooove e30's........(and Ive run down many 911s on a track)...and I looove 911s........but right now it aint the same buyers market. It cost over 60k ez to get into a decent pre 74........and a nice 78-89?, an ez 25k on up....sheesh 964s are now what 35k on up?.....they were 2ok not long ago......when e30s were 4-5k for sweet cars...lol

                  the market has changed
                  I love sitting down and just driving!

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                    #54
                    I think as owners we should be grateful that the prices are going up as they are. That only means one thing, we drive a 20+ year old car that someone would trade us a new car for. lol.

                    Really thought. I just purchased mine not to long ago and when i was in the market I found some shitty cars in the 6-8k range, as a buyer it sucks but if you want a E30 you'll buy.
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                      #55
                      EAG prices are a lot higher than anywhere else because they will guarantee to buy back the car at the price you paid if you want to buy a different one. Its almost like paying extra for a service. If you can afford it its actually a pretty cool concept. You can buy a really clean old car and then when you get tired of it trade it in for what you paid without having to deal with selling it.

                      One of the reasons why people are willing to pay their prices and how its not really comparable to anyone else selling their car.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by jc72 View Post
                        EAG prices are a lot higher than anywhere else because they will guarantee to buy back the car at the price you paid if you want to buy a different one. Its almost like paying extra for a service. If you can afford it its actually a pretty cool concept. You can buy a really clean old car and then when you get tired of it trade it in for what you paid without having to deal with selling it.

                        One of the reasons why people are willing to pay their prices and how its not really comparable to anyone else selling their car.
                        Oh wow. That's kinda awesome. That would lead me to buy one from them.
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Lue_614 View Post
                          I think as owners we should be grateful that the prices are going up as they are. That only means one thing, we drive a 20+ year old car that someone would trade us a new car for. lol.

                          Really thought. I just purchased mine not to long ago and when i was in the market I found some shitty cars in the 6-8k range, as a buyer it sucks but if you want a E30 you'll buy.
                          Really "though".......jus sayin

                          (I gave gave gave gave my track/street car away......sigh)
                          I love sitting down and just driving!

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                            #58
                            Flyboy definitely said it spot on. The market and people who love these cars are changing. I was a broke 18yr old when I got into e30s and now I'm a professional making good money - what I am willing to spend on the e30 experience has changed with that significantly, and will continue as the parts and cars become harder to find.

                            On the 911 front, my father has a 1970 911 which I have driven many times - it's a blast. He bought it for $4500 around ten years ago and it was recently (conservatively) appraised at $60k. Honestly, I'd rather drive my e30 9 times out of 10 and I'd rather own the 911. There is something about the 911 that is awesome to be around, see and experience but you are talking about a car that is 46 years old and there is a reason the e30 and e30 m3 were game changers when they came out.

                            The e30, M and non-m, will continue to go up in value for good reason. These are incredible driver's cars that offered an experience in the 80's you couldn't get elsewhere. As the car becomes more difficult to find, the interested buyers grow older and more financially well off, they will be willing to spend more to get that experience and own a wonderful piece of history.
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by mcgillaguddy View Post
                              Flyboy definitely said it spot on. The market and people who love these cars are changing. I was a broke 18yr old when I got into e30s and now I'm a professional making good money - what I am willing to spend on the e30 experience has changed with that significantly, and will continue as the parts and cars become harder to find.

                              On the 911 front, my father has a 1970 911 which I have driven many times - it's a blast. He bought it for $4500 around ten years ago and it was recently (conservatively) appraised at $60k. Honestly, I'd rather drive my e30 9 times out of 10 and I'd rather own the 911. There is something about the 911 that is awesome to be around, see and experience but you are talking about a car that is 46 years old and there is a reason the e30 and e30 m3 were game changers when they came out.

                              The e30, M and non-m, will continue to go up in value for good reason. These are incredible driver's cars that offered an experience in the 80's you couldn't get elsewhere. As the car becomes more difficult to find, the interested buyers grow older and more financially well off, they will be willing to spend more to get that experience and own a wonderful piece of history.


                              yup
                              I love sitting down and just driving!

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by E30 Wagen View Post
                                You seem like the "more money than brains" type.
                                it surprises me that you you would say something like this. i think its pretty uncalled for and out of line actually. give the guy a break.

                                members like him are the future of our "sport".

                                places like sin city bmw do "nut and bolt" restorations on 2002's that cost well over 100 grand. not just one or two. they have a backlog sitting around just waiting for someone to get time to work on them. just because you can't afford it(most of us refuse to pay that much for an old bmw), doesn't mean it isn't fact. its a matter of time and they will be doing 100+k restorations on e30's too. all of you can be naysayers all day long. the future is plain as day to me. just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't so.

                                by this standard, the car he bought was actually very much the opposite of what you posted above.
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