The Official F1 2009 Thread

[E30Kaiser]

I am not looking forward to a race in the dry tomorrow for Red Bull so I am hoping against hope that they are heavy and get lucky or that it rains and Vettel can work his magic. Should be interesting though to see how quick Kimi takes out Sutil.

[Hick]

weights are up. redbull is no heavier than the brawns... and hamilton is lightest of the top 10.

im putting myself behind rubins, he deserves a WC

[Jon325i]

weights are up. redbull is no heavier than the brawns... and hamilton is lightest of the top 10.

im putting myself behind rubins, he deserves a WC

Not surprised by Lewis' light weight. He was .195 faster than Sutil so my immediate thought was he was running low fuel. As the commentators noted the McLaren is looking quite stable and planted in the corners given the low downforce of Monza....I think we can expect them to stay in the mix up front (barring any Spa-like disasters). Interesting that the Brawns and Redbulls are equal in weight. I agree in favoring Rubens simply because I think he's showing better form & pace than Jenson. A WC for Rubens would be more than well-deserved after all these years.

Any word on what caused the BMWs to fail? I think its more than mere coincidence that both cars have engine failures within 2 laps of each other.

Jon

[E30Kaiser]

weights are up. redbull is no heavier than the brawns... and hamilton is lightest of the top 10.

im putting myself behind rubins, he deserves a WC

If a Brawn has to win the Championship, I want it to be Rubens.

And bets on how quick Kimi hits Adrian? I am thinking the first chicane.

[Jean]

What an interesting q. section! Both BMW cars out, within minutes of each other and both with what might be engine problems? Sutil in 2nd is a big surprise! Wow.

I was watching BBC Sport feed, and they only interviewed Sutil and Lewis. Did Kimi say anything in the interview or did BBC Sport not show it? Anyone?

[Jon325i]

what might be engine problems?

The iDrive's 'sport' setting malfunctioned.

[YAN-3]

The iDrive's 'sport' setting malfunctioned.

[Jon325i]

Not really on topic to tomorrow's race, but here's a video clip of Kubica in the BMW (2006 season) braking hard into turn one at Monza. Gives you a much better perspective of the stopping power of an F1 car. Sorry if its a repost.

[Jean]

Glowing rotors on all four

[Jparkr]

that video was amazing.

I personally hope button can take the championship. He may be having trouble now but he did dominate 50% of the season so far. I think he more then deserves it.

I would like to see Webber take it before Rubins but that is just personal favoritism. I respect Rubins very much.

[elsabor67]

Latest from Monza (F1):

#1: Barrichello(Brawn), #2: Button(Brawn), #3: Raikonnen(Ferrari).

Hamilton had 3rd place on lock but was pushing hard on the 2nd to final lap trying to get to Button and crashed, ended 12th. Fisicella came in 9th with ferrari while his former teamate Sutil finished 4th. Kubica crashed with Webber at the begining and later retired and Heidfeld finished 7th.

[Jon325i]

Great race today.....I won't go into a lot of detail now since others have yet to watch it. But I will say this: Rosberg & Kimi are no longer mathematically in the run for the championship. Its down to Webber, Vettel, Barrichello & Button.

Todays' race concludes the European swing of the season. Last 4 races (in order) are: Singapore, Suzuka, Brazil & Abu Dabi.


Jon

[elsabor67]

But I will say this: Rosberg & Kimi are no longer mathematically in the run for the championship. Its down to Webber, Vettel, Barrichello & Button.

Todays' race concludes the European swing of the season. Last 4 races (in order) are: Singapore, Suzuka, Brazil & Abu Dabi.


Jon

By what the German commentators I was listening to were saying, both Vettel's chances took a catastrophic hit today and Webber was out of the race for the championship.

Both Barrichello and Button (more Rubens than Jason) have been running very consistently and are seemingly becoming the stronger team overall. Even though Hamilton was running very strong throughout the race, he pushed a little to strong and wound up crashing.

I will say it's getting pretty interesting if Barrichello poses a challenge to Button's run.

[Jean]

Very good race! Brawn had a great weekend! Good job Force India as well, very good pace!

I am not kidding when I say this, as I just finished watching the race and Lewis was in 3rd with 3 laps to go followed by Kimi and Sutil... I just had a crazy thought thinking "what if Lewis will crash in the next lap". I guess he is still capable of doing just that ...

LOL

P.S. did you guys catch the funny moment with Sutil and some random girl/model during his interview with BBC crew?

"do you know her?"
"not yet"

[Jon325i]

I was basing my "probabilities" of drivers' championship simply by the numbers. Right now with 4 races remaining, there is a maximum of 40 points up for grabs. The drivers' still in the running (mathematically speaking) are:

Button - 80 points
Barrichello - 66 points
Vettel - 54 points
Webber - 51.5 points

In order for Webber to take the title, Jenson and Rubens need to finish out of the points while while Webber wins the last 4 races. Odds of this realistically happening? Very very very unlikely....but it is still possible statistically speaking.

In order for Vettel to win the title, he needs to rack up 2 wins and two in 2nd place -or- 2 wins, a 2nd and a 3rd while Jenson scores nothing. Barrichello could finish in the points so long as they are very few points to ensure a Vettel victory. Odds of this realistically happening? Slightly better than Webber, but it would still take a miracle. Again, by the numbers it is possible although I wouldn't hold your breath.

For Barrichello to win the title, he has to win the last 4 races while Jenson fairing no better than 3rd everytime. This would put Rubens at 106 points while Jenson would have 104. If Jenson got three 3rd place finishes and one 2nd, he would have 106 points just like Rubens but the title would go to Jensen because he has more wins.

Based on this, Jenson isn't quite a lock for the WD title but todays' result at Monza has definately improved his odds.


Jon