The Official F1 2009 Thread

[tg318is]

Renault are on probation for 2 years.

[YAN-3]

Renault are on probation for 2 years.

Probation is a sentence which may be imposed by a court in lieu of incarceration. A criminal who is "on probation" has been convicted of a crime but has served only part of the sentence in jail, or has not served time at all.


so going back to my question.... can Renault apply for some sort of appeal?

[quickervicar]

Yes. PROBATION. The ruling is that they get no punishment unless they are found guilty of another incident of this magnitude over the probation period. IF they are found guilty of such an occurrence, then they would be banned for 5 years.

This might seem crazy, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the Singapore police blocked Renault's transporters from entering the paddock tomorrow. I believe the govt. is still considering prosecution for endangering the lives of citizens.

[quickervicar]

Sorry, YAN, missed your post.

I don't see any reason to appeal a non-punishment.

[YAN-3]

Sorry, YAN, missed your post.

I don't see any reason to appeal a non-punishment.

maybe im just not up to par with the judicial terms and crap. i thought they were not gonna be able to take part in 10,11, and that Flavio might have a fighting chance to come back.

[quickervicar]

No. My understanding is that Renault is completely off the hook (save for the probation & $1.6m in legal fees) and that Pat Symonds is banned for a couple of years. Flavio is to have no part in any form of FIA-sanctioned events. Ever. Not even as a spectator. Not only that, but he cannot represent any FIA-licensed drivers as a manager since they will not renew the FIA Superlicense to any driver represented by him. His role as football club owner is under review as well (if you fixed one sporting event, why wouldn't you fix another?)

They've effectively castrated him. Heidi Klum is secretly pleased.

[TDE30]

No. My understanding is that Renault is completely off the hook (save for the probation & $1.6m in legal fees) and that Pat Symonds is banned for a couple of years. Flavio is to have no part in any form of FIA-sanctioned events. Ever. Not even as a spectator. Not only that, but he cannot represent any FIA-licensed drivers as a manager since they will not renew the FIA Superlicense to any driver represented by him. His role as football club owner is under review as well (if you fixed one sporting event, why wouldn't you fix another?)

They've effectively castrated him. Heidi Klum is secretly pleased.

LOL at the last sentence. Thanks for clearing that one up, I was for sure that they were suspended for 2010 and 2011; I'm mildly surprised that their punishment was so light.

[quickervicar]

I can understand the confusion. The wording is: "the WMSC has decided to suspend Renault F1’s disqualification until the end of the 2011 season. The World Motor Sport Council will only activate this disqualification if Renault F1 is found guilty of a comparable breach during that time."

Basically, the French court ruled that unless Renault rams another car into a barrier located in front of a bunch of spectators in order to throw a race and/or championship within the next two years, it can carry on as usual.

[naplesE30]

ING ends relationship with Renault effective immediatly....

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-title-sponsor-ing-axes-renault-backing/

That didnt take too long.

I would be surprised if Renault does not pull out of F1, they are going to have a hell of a time finding a sponsor who wants to be associated with them.

[YAN-3]

ING ends relationship with Renault effective immediatly....

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-title-sponsor-ing-axes-renault-backing/

That didnt take too long.

I would be surprised if Renault does not pull out of F1, they are going to have a hell of a time finding a sponsor who wants to be associated with them.

wow! that was quick. cant wait to see the car without the ING crap all over it.

also anyone read this and go.... yea right!

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Raikkonen Fully committed to Ferrari for 2010

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/9/9975.html

[naplesE30]

I like the cars with all the livery on them,,,, I think the brawns are terrible looking as plain as they are.

Kimi is just doing what hes supposed too. Did he look misserable at Monza on the podium or what. Funny how everyone knows he is done at Ferrari, (even if they ran 3 cars he would not be driving for them) but he still wont/cant admit it.

Alonso and Massa ought to be an exciting combo as neither driver will back down for the other. Led to some fun times at McLaren last time FA was not the clear number one.

[YAN-3]

I like the cars with all the livery on them,,,, I think the brawns are terrible looking as plain as they are.

Kimi is just doing what hes supposed too. Did he look misserable at Monza on the podium or what. Funny how everyone knows he is done at Ferrari, (even if they ran 3 cars he would not be driving for them) but he still wont/cant admit it.

Alonso and Massa ought to be an exciting combo as neither driver will back down for the other. Led to some fun times at McLaren last time FA was not the clear number one.

Brawn added Canon as a sponsor. look for a big red canon logo on the side of their car this weekend.

[quickervicar]

BMW-Sauber unveiled a brand-new car for the weekend (almost). Seems a bit pointless, but I wish them the best.

[Hick]

anyone watch P2? Man can Alonso hustle that car, hes a mad man when it comes to these low grip courses.

[quickervicar]

Wouldn't it be interesting if Alonso won it legitimately this year?