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  • AWDBOB
    R3V Elite
    • Aug 2013
    • 4374

    #301
    Originally posted by 2mAn
    but I have come to the (current) conclusion that I want to build a 2.8L M20.
    I think a 2.8L M20 is great- but for the $ I'm not sure keeping standard bore and modifying old parts for clearance is the best bang for your buck.

    I still think that building a 2.9L using an M52b28 crank, 135mm rods, and the IE Mahle Ultimate Street/Stroker 85mm pistons is the best way to go, because you gain stroke while keeping a longer rod (better R/S), and you're able to maintain max quench to match the 885. Takes out all of the guesswork, too. Honestly I'd bet all said and done you'll spend the same amount as putting together a 2.8 using ETA parts.

    If you want to get fancy, too, it's only a hair more expensive to use an S52 crank, 135mm rods and get custom JE pistons made (~$900) with matching 885 dome profile and have a 3+L.

    And at that point, it begs the question, why don't I just throw a stock M30b35 in there with a decent cam and nice headers? They weigh close to the same without AC as an M20 with AC and come with 3.5L el-stocko.
    1989 Hooptie 325iS Build Thread
    1989 Zinnoberrot M3 Build Thread

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    • 2mAn
      Señior Mod
      • Aug 2010
      • 20096

      #302
      I’m definitely sticking to no more than the 85/84 setup. I wish I grabbed the Mahle Motorsport pistons when I found them for a smoking deal. For now I think I’m going to start prepping towards the setup betz has ... I’m not doing the M30 because economy is part of my priority and the M30 is a thirsty bitch.

      Also this... https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=330450
      Simon
      Current Cars:
      -1966 Lotus Elan
      -1986 German Car
      -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

      Make R3V Great Again -2020

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      • wworm
        E30 Mastermind
        • Dec 2016
        • 1719

        #303
        torque is dehydrating

        Originally posted by AWDBOB

        I still think that building a 2.9L using an M52b28 crank, 135mm rods, and the IE Mahle Ultimate Street/Stroker 85mm pistons is the best way to go, because you gain stroke while keeping a longer rod (better R/S), and you're able to maintain max quench to match the 885. Takes out all of the guesswork, too. Honestly I'd bet all said and done you'll spend the same amount as putting together a 2.8 using ETA parts.

        If you want to get fancy, too, it's only a hair more expensive to use an S52 crank, 135mm rods and get custom JE pistons made (~$900) with matching 885 dome profile and have a 3+L.
        I'm with bob on this one. would be happy to snag a 2.8 crank one of these weekends at a junkyard if you wanna do this. I just like taking apart cars that dont belong to anyone lol
        1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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        • 2mAn
          Señior Mod
          • Aug 2010
          • 20096

          #304
          Not sure how much that crank would cost nor how long it would take you to get them off...

          There was a cheap one locally but the guy couldn’t find a buyer and now it’s a Budweiser can or some shit
          Simon
          Current Cars:
          -1966 Lotus Elan
          -1986 German Car
          -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

          Make R3V Great Again -2020

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          • Balleristic31
            R3V Elite
            • Aug 2009
            • 4198

            #305
            I’ve got a 2.8l crank if your are interested! ;) how did that trans work out?

            -NICK

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            • earthwormjim
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2014
              • 434

              #306
              2.8L is the direction I'd like to go with my touring, I really like the M20, it's such a happy sounding engine. I already went through the nightmare of getting it registered as is, I can't imagine what my BAR experience would be like doing an S5X swap.

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              • Reichart12
                R3VLimited
                • Aug 2012
                • 2147

                #307
                Go 2.9 8-)

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                • 2mAn
                  Señior Mod
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 20096

                  #308
                  Cirrusly Blue - The Daily Driver E30

                  Originally posted by Balleristic31
                  I’ve got a 2.8l crank if your are interested! [emoji6] how did that trans work out?

                  Yes, text me and we’ll go from there!

                  G260 feels great, I’m just so happy with 3 pedals

                  Originally posted by Reichart12
                  Go 2.9 8-)

                  Haha yes


                  Originally posted by earthwormjim
                  2.8L is the direction I'd like to go with my touring, I really like the M20, it's such a happy sounding engine. I already went through the nightmare of getting it registered as is, I can't imagine what my BAR experience would be like doing an S5X swap.

                  If you’ve made the wagon legal then the 24v shouldn’t be a problem, but I agree. I know someone actually selling a 3.1 M20... I believe you will see him this weekend ;)
                  Simon
                  Current Cars:
                  -1966 Lotus Elan
                  -1986 German Car
                  -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                  Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                  • 2mAn
                    Señior Mod
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 20096

                    #309
                    Cirrusly Blue - The Daily Driver E30

                    I waited to get my shift boot from getouth before I would post this mandatory picture.



                    This is going to actually be a temporary set up assuming I can execute an idea I have ... stay tuned
                    Simon
                    Current Cars:
                    -1966 Lotus Elan
                    -1986 German Car
                    -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                    Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                    • wworm
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 1719

                      #310
                      :devil:;d
                      1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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                      • 2mAn
                        Señior Mod
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 20096

                        #311
                        Originally posted by wworm
                        :devil:
                        haha

                        I have "new" headrests on their way from Marco (mbonnani) to replace the rear headrests. They have taken their abuse in the sun and will be replaced in the next few days. I am excited to see what comes of the old ones ;D
                        Simon
                        Current Cars:
                        -1966 Lotus Elan
                        -1986 German Car
                        -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                        Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                        • spiDmang
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3941

                          #312
                          Niiiiice mang.
                          -Brad, AlphaTeam Motorwerks, LLC
                          91' 318iS - S54/6MT Swapped
                          08' E90 M3 6MT - Daily
                          04' Chevy Duramax CCLB - Work Truck/Hauler


                          Originally posted by IronJoe
                          Alpha Team: running through e30s, gringo icebergs, and 19 yr olds.

                          Originally posted by 2mAn
                          Brads a standup guy even though he likes buttsex

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                          • 2mAn
                            Señior Mod
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 20096

                            #313
                            Cirrusly Blue - The Daily Driver E30

                            Originally posted by spiDmang
                            Niiiiice mang.



                            Thanks mang!

                            Headrests arrive today as well as another little thing I’ve been trying to get done.

                            Here’s the collection of stuff ready to go in


                            You can see how bad the old headrests are in the pic, and I’m not worried about the paint on my trunk to throw the stuff on so don’t even give me a hard time about it

                            Here’s another angle of the headrests


                            Tan must be the worst color to try and match because I believe these are both Natur leather but the colors aren’t a perfect match, I’ll live with it





                            The other thing I’ve been working on was the lower dash cover. It was cracked, and the PO had used some random, I don’t even know what it’s called, to hold it on. So I ordered new ones from eBay, they werent exactly what I thought but they work perfect



                            Here is the old cover, what you can’t see is on the right side of the steering column that whole piece is missing



                            This new one is almost perfect but has a similar defect...These old parts are becoming pretty damn brittle



                            And “new” one installed



                            That’s it for now
                            Simon
                            Current Cars:
                            -1966 Lotus Elan
                            -1986 German Car
                            -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                            Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                            • coldweatherblue
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 393

                              #314
                              Awesome you got the G260 man, the manual transmission really makes these cars.

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                              • wworm
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Dec 2016
                                • 1719

                                #315
                                lol those headrests were so wiggly. Stoked to see what else is in store here.
                                1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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