Change is coming...

[Jand3rson]

Why are you avoiding welding? Is it because you dont have access to a welder or you just choose not to do it? I would weld it, from my experience rivets suck. Maybe you've had different experiences....

I have access to a welder, and someone who welds very well, but I'm not willing to risk damaging the rest of the car, namely the paint and/or body above where the apron will be mounted. Rivets will work just fine, and if need be, I will seal the seam with something more rigid, like Bondo. But I probably won't need to, rivets should work fine, I've never had problems riveting materials. And if not, we find another way. I'm thinking that we could cover the exposed parts of the car with something, and just a few tack welds ever few inches will be sufficient for decent holding strength, and then riveting it the rest of the way.

It will work. Dammit, I will fucking MAKE IT WORK.

[AndrewBird]

If we have to, we can put a series of bolts along the edge instead of rivets. Then it could be remvable and be super strong. Rivets should be fine though. We'll just have to use stainless steel and LOTS of them with washers on each side.

[AndrewBird]

nothing against plastics, I have em and love em. But your car would be tits w/ euro bumpers and a full mtech1 :twisted:

ANY car would look hot with euro's and MTech1.

[James Crivellone]

you should just sell your car and get a late model or at least just get an aftermarket rear apron. Thats pointless imo, but its you car so rock on.

Everybody has a late model, they are boring to us! :D

[Van Westervelt]

Sorry I missed you up here the other day Josh.

I still just see the issues with the seems in the wells. But where there is an issue, there is a way to resolve it so it will all be good. You are gonna frickin love it when its done. Besides, Criv is doin the M-Tech1, why duplicate? Its gonna be badass when its all said and done. Just dont go taking on so many projects that it will spend another picnic in Bend! :)

[dude8383]

dude i can't wait to see this done. Goodluck!!

[eurostyl e30]

ANY car would look hot with euro's and MTech1.

Except E30Andy's...

[RobertK]

Trust me.. no need to seal the seam.. I need to post picture of my rivetted valance with the bumper on it. Looks factory. Bumper covers up everything.

[RobertK]

Mine is about a big of a hack job as you can get - I just stopped caring about it. It's slightly harder than that. You can't just cut the current valence off your current car, because there's shit below it. Say, the corner pockets, and wheel wells.

That guy's looks decent..from those angles - I'd like to see what inside his wheelwell and up/underneath the apron looks like.

Those are shots of my current project.

Up underneath my apron of course look like the back side of the apron overlapping the old one. The wheel well is the only tell tale of the double apron. I plan to fiberglass that in with a backing plate so it will not be noticeable.

If you learn to use figerglass resin it is 10x better than bondo for applications like this.

[T3rd Ferguson]

Except E30Andy's...

my car would looklike shit with euros and an mtech 1.

[Jand3rson]

my car would looklike shit with euros and an mtech 1.

Wait a minute...

:D

[mattdk318i]

Josh, im sure stainless steel rivets will do what you want, As you stated.
I use to work at a sign company, Making signs for Mercedes,Audi,Wachovia,GM,etc.
You would be surprised what those rivets are holding together, Plus it keeps from blistering your paint and such.


Matt

[Jand3rson]

Josh, im sure stainless steel rivets will do what you want, As you stated.
I use to work at a sign company, Making signs for Mercedes,Audi,Wachovia,GM,etc.
You would be surprised what those rivets are holding together, Plus it keeps from blistering your paint and such.


Matt

Yep, like I said, we'll figure it out. Andrew and I live for doing this kind of custom work, so it should be fun.

BTW, the pic in your sig is gorgeous. But it IS too wide, it needs to be cut back to 650.

[ebelements]

Early tails and arches are the shit.

Rivets, however... ugh. I've never been to OR so I don't know how bad the winter weather is or if they salt the roads, but that sounds like a great way to get some really kickass hidden rust, IMO.

[parkerbink]

Any progress Josh? I'm excited to see this come to fruition.