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  • Dave-ger
    Wrencher
    • May 2009
    • 221

    #181
    I wasn't going to post this until it was in the car working, but whatevs. I've heard that plastic breathes and that's probably part of why the RCI fuel cell leaked vapor, but not fuel. Apparently plastic fuel cells aren't good for trunks. Anyone want to buy it real cheap? let me know!

    the main part of the fuel cell bent up with some excess on it


    the sump. the small hole is where the AN fitting now is, the big hole is on the inside. the idea is that under hard braking or cornering, fuel can't spill out of there as easy to make pump starvation even less likely than it would be otherwise. the hole probably should have been smaller, but oh well.


    Baffles to reduce side to side sloshing:



    All TIG welded up, pressure testing. Some ugly tacks and not horrible looking mig beads patched up the flaws that I found with the pressure testing. Took like 4 tries.



    Steezy angle iron mounting tab:



    expensive cap and filler neck setup, Tim from German Master Tech gave me a discount though, cause he's the man!


    side view


    strut bar and fuel cell mounting studs. both things cost me pretty much nothing

    don't knock my welds too much, it was hard to reach this, especially since I had to lay in the trunk. I wanted to be able to kind of show you the little plates.


    the mounting studs are used 8.8 bolts from one of both of the E21's I've owned welded on hole saw cutouts from the fuel cell baffles.


    I'm a little disappointed with how much the tank warped when I welded it and with the fact that I was just starting to get the hang of TIGing thinner metal towards the end of this project. Oh well, that's how you learn I guess. The tank has some liner in it that's curing, I should be painting it, installing and filling it before the end of the week!

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    • dirtysix
      E30 Modder
      • Aug 2006
      • 806

      #182
      What gauge steel aaannnd why steel and not ally, if you're Tigging?
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      • Dave-ger
        Wrencher
        • May 2009
        • 221

        #183
        It's 16 guage. I didn't do aluminum because I understand the ethanol and/or additives in pump gas is bad for it or something like that. In addition, steel is much easier to work with as far as welding and everything. it's a bit on the heavy side, but not as bad as you'd think. A good thing that comes with that is that there is pretty much no way it will ever split open or anything. I've heard of some cases in off road applications where aluminum fuel cells actually do split open. if my car were to ever roll or anything serious like that, I'd prefer to not have gas everywhere.

        it's not the prettiest, but I'm new to TIG welding like I said, and this was the thinnest steel I had ever TIGed... probably should have practiced a bit before, lol!

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        • LuckyHenriksen
          R3V Elite
          • Jun 2010
          • 4244

          #184
          Looks great man, nice update


          Bahama Beige E23 Project
          Bluebird Bus Conversion
          New Oregon Trail

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          • dirtysix
            E30 Modder
            • Aug 2006
            • 806

            #185
            Originally posted by Dave-ger
            It's 16 guage. I didn't do aluminum because I understand the ethanol and/or additives in pump gas is bad for it or something like that. In addition, steel is much easier to work with as far as welding and everything. it's a bit on the heavy side, but not as bad as you'd think. A good thing that comes with that is that there is pretty much no way it will ever split open or anything. I've heard of some cases in off road applications where aluminum fuel cells actually do split open. if my car were to ever roll or anything serious like that, I'd prefer to not have gas everywhere.

            it's not the prettiest, but I'm new to TIG welding like I said, and this was the thinnest steel I had ever TIGed... probably should have practiced a bit before, lol!
            16 gauge, so about 1.6mm. Pretty heavy duty.
            I was considering something along the same lines but in 1mm (18-19 gauge).
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            • Dave-ger
              Wrencher
              • May 2009
              • 221

              #186
              thanks!



              Originally posted by dirtysix
              16 gauge, so about 1.6mm. Pretty heavy duty.
              I was considering something along the same lines but in 1mm (18-19 gauge).
              yea, it's overkill, but it was easier to work with that way. 19 gauge or what not would work fine, I think my friend who helped me a little with this one made the one for his rock buggy out of that. his looks much nicer because he's a more experienced and skilled fabricator. anyways, it's holding up well. It even withstood the buggy's 8th or 9th roll over.

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              • Dave-ger
                Wrencher
                • May 2009
                • 221

                #187

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                • Kershaw
                  R3V OG
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 11822

                  #188
                  uh huh.

                  and what was wrong with your oem unit?
                  AWD > RWD

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                  • Beach Bum
                    E30 Addict
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 466

                    #189
                    Originally posted by Kershaw
                    uh huh.

                    and what was wrong with your oem unit?
                    It wasn't covered with dinosaurs, duh.
                    Originally posted by george graves
                    If people keep quoting me in their sig, I'm going to burn this motherfucker down.

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                    • Dave-ger
                      Wrencher
                      • May 2009
                      • 221

                      #190
                      Originally posted by Kershaw
                      uh huh.

                      and what was wrong with your oem unit?
                      Look back in the thread a ways, you'll see why. I don't think I have pics of the OEM fuel tank carnage much though. but I had a drive line failure because the drive line was too small around for the length it was... not something I would have wanted to learn the hard way, but at least nobody got hurt besides my crappy car.

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                      • Dave-ger
                        Wrencher
                        • May 2009
                        • 221

                        #191
                        Originally posted by Beach Bum
                        It wasn't covered with dinosaurs, duh.
                        This is probably part of why the OEM tanks didn't hold up! I should have known!

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                        • LuckyHenriksen
                          R3V Elite
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 4244

                          #192
                          Love the paint job. Do people look at you funny when you pop the trunk to fill the tank?


                          Bahama Beige E23 Project
                          Bluebird Bus Conversion
                          New Oregon Trail

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                          • Jand3rson
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37587

                            #193
                            Originally posted by Kershaw
                            uh huh.

                            and what was wrong with your oem unit?
                            Not much for reading back a little ways, are you?

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                            • Dave-ger
                              Wrencher
                              • May 2009
                              • 221

                              #194
                              Originally posted by LuckyHenriksen
                              Love the paint job. Do people look at you funny when you pop the trunk to fill the tank?
                              ha, thanks. I have not yet put any gas in this new tank, but I sure got some funny looks filling the RCI fuel tank. (which is 4 sails!)

                              one time a guy told me I pulled up to the wrong side of the pump... obviously my stock filler was on the wrong side, but I said "no, I have a fuel cell". and he ended up asking me if it was for hydrogen... He later asked me if the two stroke oil I added in the tank was to help with fuel mileage... my response stating that the car has a rotary with no oil injection on it really confused him and ended the conversation.

                              I bet he finished high school... lol!

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                              • Dave-ger
                                Wrencher
                                • May 2009
                                • 221

                                #195
                                The fuel cell is working great so far!





                                I sure missed driving a low car, that's for sure.

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