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  • irish44j
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2011
    • 2763

    #211
    great thread here, and definitely keeping my eyes on it as I start up a 318i ('85 M10!) rallycross build "on the cheap." Already you've given me some good ideas that I otherwise wouldn't have thought of. Keep up the great work.
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    [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] 1985 318i/M50 Rally Car - 1988 Porsche 924S - 2005 Sequoia tow pig - 2018 GTI

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    • iamsam
      Advanced Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 172

      #212
      Originally posted by irish44j
      great thread here, and definitely keeping my eyes on it as I start up a 318i ('85 M10!) rallycross build "on the cheap." Already you've given me some good ideas that I otherwise wouldn't have thought of. Keep up the great work.
      early 318s are great rally starters. Lightest E30 chassis produced!

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      • irish44j
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2011
        • 2763

        #213
        Originally posted by iamcreepingdeath
        early 318s are great rally starters. Lightest E30 chassis produced!
        lol, but alot of the lightness is due to the little suspension, little brakes, and little engine :)

        OP, if you have any suggestions or thoughts on rally setup, feel free to toss some knowledge my way in my build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=224191 and keep up the good work.

        btw, what kind of skid are you using? Any diff protection (is it needed?)
        Stage rally/rallycross e30 build/competition journal
        Track/street e21 build
        visit Condor Speed Shop
        visit Motorsport Hardware



        [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] 1985 318i/M50 Rally Car - 1988 Porsche 924S - 2005 Sequoia tow pig - 2018 GTI

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        • iamsam
          Advanced Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 172

          #214
          Originally posted by irish44j
          lol, but alot of the lightness is due to the little suspension, little brakes, and little engine :)
          true, but also manual windows, manual locks, which means less wiring, etc. You will gain weight as soon as you swap motors, and whatnot. Nothing wrong w/ running smaller suspension, unless it is more prone to breaking...

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          • irish44j
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2011
            • 2763

            #215
            Originally posted by iamcreepingdeath
            true, but also manual windows, manual locks, which means less wiring, etc. You will gain weight as soon as you swap motors, and whatnot. Nothing wrong w/ running smaller suspension, unless it is more prone to breaking...
            mine has power windows and locks.....

            smaller suspension only sucks because of smaller brakes and difficult to find 45mm bilsteins that are NLA.....
            Stage rally/rallycross e30 build/competition journal
            Track/street e21 build
            visit Condor Speed Shop
            visit Motorsport Hardware



            [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] 1985 318i/M50 Rally Car - 1988 Porsche 924S - 2005 Sequoia tow pig - 2018 GTI

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            • jasonsnoddy
              E30 Mastermind
              • Feb 2010
              • 1900

              #216
              Originally posted by irish44j
              mine has power windows and locks.....

              smaller suspension only sucks because of smaller brakes and difficult to find 45mm bilsteins that are NLA.....
              just swap to the bigger strut housings. boom done.


              Originally posted by stewie30luvr
              ooo cause i was fixing my chain tensioner and there was a black widow on the radiator so i killed it
              Originally posted by JakeP
              with a coathanger

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              • iamsam
                Advanced Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 172

                #217
                Weird. I am looking at an '85 318i coupe that is manual everything.

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                • MasterOfPuppets
                  Advanced Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 135

                  #218
                  Originally posted by iamcreepingdeath
                  Weird. I am looking at an '85 318i coupe that is manual everything.
                  Methinks you commit the logical fallacy of hasty generalization!
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                  • MasterOfPuppets
                    Advanced Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 135

                    #219
                    Originally posted by irish44j
                    OP, if you have any suggestions or thoughts on rally setup, feel free to toss some knowledge my way in my build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=224191 and keep up the good work.

                    btw, what kind of skid are you using? Any diff protection (is it needed?)
                    I will surely do so the minute I have any practical knowledge of rally suspension! Right now I'm winging it in the hopes that this car will get me through a few rallies so I can figure out what I want for the next one.

                    My current (mental) design for the skid involves several overlapping sections from front to rear, with the frontward ones overlapping the rearward. From the front bumper to the back of the engine compartment will be one metal plate, reinforced with steel tubing (leftover cage material) in several places. I have yet to decide on a specific material, probably something like 1/4" aluminum or 3/16" steel. Then, from there back to the exhaust exit, I'll do HDPE sheets on each side of the exhaust. Rear of the exhaust exit there will be one final big piece the whole width of the car.

                    I don't plan to do any additional shielding for the diff, seeing as it's probably tied with the engine block for the strongest single part of the car (probably and hopefully). I may put some little flaps in the skid plates in front of the rear suspension to try to keep rocks from hitting the CV boots and shocks when the wheel is in full rebound.
                    Last edited by MasterOfPuppets; 10-12-2011, 07:43 PM.
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                    • monkeytaco
                      E30 Modder
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 882

                      #220
                      Originally posted by MasterOfPuppets
                      I may put some little flaps in the skid plates in front of the rear suspension to try to keep rocks from hitting the CV boots and shocks when the wheel is in full rebound.
                      If I were you I'd figure out a way to attach some skid plating to the rear trailing arms, even if its just the high density plastic, which would provide the same function as a flap, but possibly be more effective.

                      Also, this thread makes me happy. Carry on.


                      Looking for a clean e30 shell for a project.

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                      • irish44j
                        R3VLimited
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2763

                        #221
                        Originally posted by iamcreepingdeath
                        Weird. I am looking at an '85 318i coupe that is manual everything.
                        ship the manual stuff to me, and I'll ship my working power stuff to you ;)
                        Stage rally/rallycross e30 build/competition journal
                        Track/street e21 build
                        visit Condor Speed Shop
                        visit Motorsport Hardware



                        [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] 1985 318i/M50 Rally Car - 1988 Porsche 924S - 2005 Sequoia tow pig - 2018 GTI

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                        • iamsam
                          Advanced Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 172

                          #222
                          Originally posted by irish44j
                          ship the manual stuff to me, and I'll ship my working power stuff to you ;)
                          the guy wouldn't take my offer of $300 for the car, so its a no-go.

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                          • irish44j
                            R3VLimited
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2763

                            #223
                            regarding the skid - I would try to do a setup like the e30motorwerks skid, with the extra tubular U-brace mounted to the frame rails. I personally do not trust a simple angle-sheet skid to protect my oilpan - the additional bracing seems like a good idea, and also will be a convenient center jack-point :)
                            Stage rally/rallycross e30 build/competition journal
                            Track/street e21 build
                            visit Condor Speed Shop
                            visit Motorsport Hardware



                            [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] 1985 318i/M50 Rally Car - 1988 Porsche 924S - 2005 Sequoia tow pig - 2018 GTI

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                            • Nsquared97
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1656

                              #224
                              Originally posted by MasterOfPuppets
                              So I went and drove the E30, among other places, on an actual LSPR rally stage yesterday:
                              Dang, how have I not bumped into you at all?!?!? Going to school at Tech, been to LSPR every year I have been up here, crewed this past year. Also been down that very stage myself ;) ANother really fun one to run is Menge creek, although that is most likely snow covered by now, but it is a much slower paced stage.

                              If your cool with it, I would love to check out your build sometime. It would definitely be nice to see another E30 up here haha. Not to mention I have a boatload of spare parts if you need anything.

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                              • iamsam
                                Advanced Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 172

                                #225
                                There you go, Mike!!!

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