those were indeed the 3 folks I was considering.
I've spent years digging through m20 build threads. Digger's my guru, as is Nando. When I decided to go stroker I was heading down the Jared/Tinkerputzer route. For ECUs I am planning on whodwho's standalone MS-in-motronic-case setup, which I hope is finally running MS3 now.
Key to my sourcing decision was deciding I wasn't going to assemble the long block myself. This decision came after I was convinced I wanted MM pistons and rods along with the S52 crank for max displacement, highest possible compression and minimal reciprocating mass. That left the cam decision open, which in the end I deferred to MM on since this is a convertible and the build is for street use by BOTH my wife and I. The last factor was around tolerancing on the assembly. I have admittedly drunk MM koolaid on that front through their 16 page m20 reference guide and the 90 minute phone call with their builders. I'm certain John would be as good or better, and I suspect BH would be too but I just don't know them well enough.
Finally on the dbilas, if I need to swap them out for RHDs I'll figure that out later after the initial build's done.
Comparing the 3 options:
- If I lived closer to John I would have gone with him and looked over his shoulder til he kicked me out of his shop
- I dig MYSTER-E / Shanty's work at B-heads. I honestly don't know Matt and the rest of the folks's engine work that well though.
- MM is about 5 hours away and has an insane pedigree with M20 work. They also started with transmissions so I can get a rebuilt G260 from them too.
If I lived in SoCal I would probably go BH or IE, but I'd prob still end up with MM rally pistons and h-beam rods.
If I lived down south I'd go with John for sure.
I've spent years digging through m20 build threads. Digger's my guru, as is Nando. When I decided to go stroker I was heading down the Jared/Tinkerputzer route. For ECUs I am planning on whodwho's standalone MS-in-motronic-case setup, which I hope is finally running MS3 now.
Key to my sourcing decision was deciding I wasn't going to assemble the long block myself. This decision came after I was convinced I wanted MM pistons and rods along with the S52 crank for max displacement, highest possible compression and minimal reciprocating mass. That left the cam decision open, which in the end I deferred to MM on since this is a convertible and the build is for street use by BOTH my wife and I. The last factor was around tolerancing on the assembly. I have admittedly drunk MM koolaid on that front through their 16 page m20 reference guide and the 90 minute phone call with their builders. I'm certain John would be as good or better, and I suspect BH would be too but I just don't know them well enough.
Finally on the dbilas, if I need to swap them out for RHDs I'll figure that out later after the initial build's done.
Comparing the 3 options:
- If I lived closer to John I would have gone with him and looked over his shoulder til he kicked me out of his shop
- I dig MYSTER-E / Shanty's work at B-heads. I honestly don't know Matt and the rest of the folks's engine work that well though.
- MM is about 5 hours away and has an insane pedigree with M20 work. They also started with transmissions so I can get a rebuilt G260 from them too.
If I lived in SoCal I would probably go BH or IE, but I'd prob still end up with MM rally pistons and h-beam rods.
If I lived down south I'd go with John for sure.
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