Hilary plan vs. Obama plan

[johnwoo]

You guys apparently havent been to the doctor in a while, or broken any bones, or needed follow up care for anything other than a sniffly nose in about 10 years. Anyone expecting children soon? I fucking hope not! Get out your fucking checkbook!

Im broke this year because I pay shitloads to Blue Cross for healthcare, then pay shit loads when bills come in. Healthcare is a joke how it sits right now. Republicans will have to agree at least to that. Why not stir the pot? If it doesnt work out, the next republican dickhead president will change it.

this is what i have to say. the 2 things driving up healthcare is:

1) drug costs
2) tests (labs, ct, mri, etc...)

to decrease cost reform needs to be done in these two areas.

drug companies need to be regulated on how much can be charged and for how long. drug patents are 7 yrs before generics can come out. government need to decrease this patent length. also you will not believe the prices the drug companies charge. its worse the dealerships. reform by obama will never happen in this area because obama is in the back pocket of all the pharmaceutical companies

reforms for malpractice need to be made. physicians order test many times un needed to cover their asses on malpractice. sometimes hospitals require tests to be ordered to reduce chances of a lawsuit other times the physicians order them just to protect themselves. the government need to make it harder for frivilous medical lawsuits.

how can the government do these two reforms.
1) set up a government pharmaceutical entity that buys medicine in bulk in turn at a cheaper cost. then there can be a reduced cost for most drugs. also decrease the length a drug can be on patent thus increase generic drug availability
2) set up a government agency to monitor medical lawsuits and reject frivilous lawsuits. if a lawsuit is deemed medically malpractice liable then it can be brought into the judiciary system.

i guarantee that those reforms in those areas will decrease healthcare.
national healthcare will not decrease healthcare costs.
everyone will have to pay for the uninsured.

have you guys wondered why if the national healthcare being proposed is so great that government officials and public figures are exempt from the program. so the program is good enough for my family and your family but not good enough for OBAMA's family?

[thundering02]

You guys apparently havent been to the doctor in a while, or broken any bones, or needed follow up care for anything other than a sniffly nose in about 10 years. Anyone expecting children soon? I fucking hope not! Get out your fucking checkbook!

Im broke this year because I pay shitloads to Blue Cross for healthcare, then pay shit loads when bills come in. Healthcare is a joke how it sits right now. Republicans will have to agree at least to that. Why not stir the pot? If it doesnt work out, the next republican dickhead president will change it.

Yep... totally agree...cause holy ,,,, the prices.

[Collin]

Fail vs. Fail?

Come on now seriously, I love this country and our democracy. But, this is socialist. Everyone is like "omg health care!!" but, uhh... socialism???

Well said, you have changed my mind with your use of facts and english.

[Jean]

here is a copy of the flowchart for the "new healthcare reform"

im not the smartest person in the world so i don't know what the hell the chart says. i stared at the chart for a good hour trying to follow all the lines and arrows but got lost around the consumers pic

What a maze!!!

[kishg]

He, he. That must probably be worst than a Texas-born Evangelist-converted cocaine/alcohol addict and poll usurper (remember Florida?)

not texas born. dubya was born in new haven, ct. the bush's for all their pretenses to be good ole boys from the south are actually old money from new england.

[scabzzzz]

You guys apparently havent been to the doctor in a while, or broken any bones, or needed follow up care for anything other than a sniffly nose in about 10 years. Anyone expecting children soon? I fucking hope not! Get out your fucking checkbook!

Im broke this year because I pay shitloads to Blue Cross for healthcare, then pay shit loads when bills come in. Healthcare is a joke how it sits right now. Republicans will have to agree at least to that. Why not stir the pot? If it doesnt work out, the next republican dickhead president will change it.

[Massive Lee]

and out of the hands of that kenyan born muslim ursurper

He, he. That must probably be worst than a Texas-born Evangelist-converted cocaine/alcohol addict and poll usurper (remember Florida?)

[BobombETA]

No, I don't like Obama at all, but that quote is funny and I like stirring the pot.



Shut up bitch. You only speak when spoken to.

[Alkasquawlik]

Seriously?

No, I don't like Obama at all, but that quote is funny and I like stirring the pot.

This should be quoted in the "This is what's wrong with america" thread

edit: Not saying you have to agree with him. Just stop being an ignorant tool.

Shut up bitch. You only speak when spoken to.

[johnwoo]

here is a copy of the flowchart for the "new healthcare reform"

im not the smartest person in the world so i don't know what the hell the chart says. i stared at the chart for a good hour trying to follow all the lines and arrows but got lost around the consumers pic

[mrsleeve]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Funny there homie

where did I say that??????? I dont like his politics and polices as they all fly in the face of everything this country is founded on.

WOW we fuckign agree on something


Yes as a person Hes very very intelligent, and hes very good a pushing his agenda. What ever that happens to be its not good for this country or any of the people in it on the whole ( I am sure some will benefit hugely)

I dont like where his policy is taking us, I dont like his ideology and politics. But I will admit fully hes very smart.

Oh no! Maybe hes the antichrist!

[mrsleeve]

As much as I hate to say it, Obama is not a total dumbass. There's something else going on here for the guy to push this hard for something that makes little to no fucking sense.

WOW we fuckign agree on something


Yes as a person Hes very very intelligent, and hes very good a pushing his agenda. What ever that happens to be its not good for this country or any of the people in it on the whole ( I am sure some will benefit hugely)

I dont like where his policy is taking us, I dont like his ideology and politics. But I will admit fully hes very smart.

[BobombETA]

and out of the hands of that kenyan born muslim ursurper

This should be quoted in the "This is what's wrong with america" thread

edit: Not saying you have to agree with him. Just stop being an ignorant tool.

[joshh]

As much as I hate to say it, Obama is not a total dumbass. There's something else going on here for the guy to push this hard for something that makes little to no fucking sense.